Re: Node Requirements and 3041

2003-01-28 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: Should the MAY remain, with some discussion of why 3041 is good or should it be upgrated to a 'SHOULD be implemented' with reasons why & why not to use it? => a SHOULD for implementation and a MAY for use should reach rough consensus and the debate will

Re: Node Requirements and 3041

2003-01-28 Thread Brian E Carpenter
I agree, after re-reading the formal definitions in RFC 2119. And I don't think we need any discussion text; the implications are already covered in 3041. The default can be left to the vendor IMHO. Brian Francis Dupont wrote: > > In your previous mail you wrote: > >Should the MAY rem

RE: Node Requirements and 3041

2003-01-28 Thread john . loughney
Hi Brian, > I agree, after re-reading the formal definitions in RFC 2119. And I > don't think we need any discussion text; the implications are already > covered in 3041. > > The default can be left to the vendor IMHO. I agree. I have added the text: Privacy Extensions for Stateless Addres

Re: Node Requirements and 3041

2003-01-29 Thread Alain Durand
On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 05:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Privacy Extensions for Stateless Address Autoconfiguration [RFC-3041] SHOULD be supported. It is recommended that node behavior be configurable when they are available. There is a catch to this last sentence. Using

RE: Node Requirements and 3041

2003-01-30 Thread Samita Chakrabarti
> > I agree, after re-reading the formal definitions in RFC 2119. And I > > don't think we need any discussion text; the implications are already > > covered in 3041. > > > > The default can be left to the vendor IMHO. > > I agree. I have added the text: > >Privacy Extensions for Statele

Re: Node Requirements and 3041

2003-01-30 Thread Alberto Escudero-Pascual
> Using RFC3041-type addresses is IMHO not a property of node, > not a property of user context, and not even a property of applications. > This is a property of the specific connections within each application. I agree, privacy is the claim of user to determine for him or herself when and how an

RE: Node Requirements and 3041

2003-01-31 Thread john . loughney
]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Node Requirements and 3041 > > > > On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 05:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > >Privacy Extensions for Stateless Address Autoconfiguration > > [RFC-3041] > >

RE: Node Requirements and 3041

2003-02-03 Thread john . loughney
Hi Samita, > In the last sentence, did you mean to say that the node should have a > configuration knob whether to turn on privacy extension behavior ? > > If so, would it be clearer to say something like the following ? > > 'It is recommended that the node be configurable to turn on/off > the

Re: Node Requirements and 3041

2003-02-03 Thread Alain Durand
On Monday, February 3, 2003, at 05:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It should be something like that, but I think Alain was suggesting that a node-based policy would not be sufficient. It should be at least application based policy, since different applications will not work with 3041 addresses.

RE: Node Requirements and 3041

2003-02-03 Thread Samita Chakrabarti
Hi John, > > If so, would it be clearer to say something like the following ? > > > > 'It is recommended that the node be configurable to turn on/off > > the privacy extension for stateless address autoconfiguration, when > > it is implemented.' > > It should be something like that, but I thi

Re: Node Requirements and 3041

2003-02-03 Thread Thomas Narten
Alain, All your points are valid, but I'd argue the node requirements document is the wrong place to have this level of detail. Instead, 3041 should be respun with more text about these issues. I think Node requirements would be better off (in general) just pointing to other basic documents and l

RE: Node Requirements and 3041

2003-02-03 Thread john . loughney
: Loughney John (NRC/Helsinki); [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Node Requirements and 3041 > > > Alain, > > All your points are valid, but I'd argue the node requirements > document is the wrong place to have this level of detail. &

Re: Node Requirements and 3041

2003-02-04 Thread Alain Durand
By "toggle 3041 on and off" I mean decide if 3041 is appropriate or not for that connection. Now, if the answer is yes, should a new address be generated or should you use an existing one, this is, IMHO, implementation dependent. I think it would make sense to generate a new one per connection for

Re: Node Requirements and 3041

2003-02-04 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Alain, By "toggle 3041 on and off", do you mean toggling address selection to use an existing 3041 address, or generating a new 3041 address for each new connection that wants it? Brian Alain Durand wrote: > > On Monday, February 3, 2003, at 05:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > It sho