Re: [IPsec] I-D on Using the ECC Brainpool Curves for IKEv2 Key Exchange

2012-12-03 Thread Johannes Merkle
Hi Yaron, > > OK, I see your point (no pun intended). Regarding ECDH secret reuse, can you > please review > http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5996#section-2.12. That section was supposed to > cover the relevant security > considerations. In fact I think your attack is alluded to in the paper we >

Re: [IPsec] I-D on Using the ECC Brainpool Curves for IKEv2 Key Exchange

2012-12-03 Thread Tero Kivinen
Johannes Merkle writes: > > OK, I see your point (no pun intended). Regarding ECDH secret > > reuse, can you please review > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5996#section-2.12. That section was > > supposed to cover the relevant security considerations. In fact I > > think your attack is alluded to

Re: [IPsec] I-D on Using the ECC Brainpool Curves for IKEv2 Key Exchange

2012-12-03 Thread Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)
As for http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5996#section-2.12, it's fine as far as it goes, however (IMHO) it rather punts on what self-checks are actually needed. It does refer to the Menezes and Ustaoglu paper, which is quite good, however, it would be better if you spell out exactly what tests the

Re: [IPsec] I-D on Using the ECC Brainpool Curves for IKEv2 Key Exchange

2012-12-03 Thread Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)
Sigh, immediately after sending this, I remembered that even characteristic EC curves tend to have cofactors h>1, hence there is further checking required for them. Scratch what I said that the what I said for odd characteristic EC curves applies to even as well -- that checking is necessary, b

[IPsec] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ipsecme-ike-tcp-01.txt

2012-12-03 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the IP Security Maintenance and Extensions Working Group of the IETF. Title : A TCP transport for the Internet Key Exchange Author(s) : Yoav Nir F

[IPsec] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-ipsecme-ike-tcp-01.txt

2012-12-03 Thread Yoav Nir
Hi I've just posted version -01 of the draft, which I think addresses the issues discussed at the F2F in Atlanta: - Added a port specification to the notification (and so, port agility for when the IKE peer is behind NAT) - Added the notification to the Initiator as well, so that it can adver