Re: Request to Advance: [RESEND]

2005-01-28 Thread Vijay Devarapalli
Soliman, Hesham wrote: FWIW I don't have a problem with ndproxy being published while incompatible with SeND. There are other examples of completely insecure experimental RFCs, e.g. Fast handoffs. It's essential to make the document consistent though. what is being discussed is incompatibility betw

RE: MAC-address randomizing privacy [RE: IPv6 WG LastCall:draft-ietf-ipv6-optimistic-dad-03.txt]

2005-01-28 Thread Alper Yegin
> > In your previous mail you wrote: > >But the implications should IMHO be explored at some length first >(maybe write an I-D?). Changing MAC addresses is going to cause more >disruption on the roaming host in case of false positives, i.e., the >laptop thinks it moved but actua

RE: Request to Advance: [RESEND]

2005-01-28 Thread Alper Yegin
I know NDproxy is a WG item, but I think this problem space deserves a discussion on its own. Although it has implications on IPv6 ND, I think stretching subnets beyond links mean further than that. And there is already another proposal contending for a similar problem space, Rbridging. Before we

RE: Request to Advance: [RESEND]

2005-01-28 Thread Soliman, Hesham
> Alain Durand wrote: > ... > > The argument that NDproxy will only be used in a certain > environments > > where SEND is not needed is clearly bogus, The IETF is not about > > defining standards for special cases but for the whole Internet. > > I disagree as a matter of principle. It i

Re: MAC-address randomizing privacy [RE: IPv6 WG Last Call:draft-ietf-ipv6-optimistic-dad-03.txt]

2005-01-28 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: But the implications should IMHO be explored at some length first (maybe write an I-D?). Changing MAC addresses is going to cause more disruption on the roaming host in case of false positives, i.e., the laptop thinks it moved but actually didn't,

MAC-address randomizing privacy [RE: IPv6 WG Last Call:draft-ietf-ipv6-optimistic-dad-03.txt]

2005-01-28 Thread Pekka Savola
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Christian Huitema wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Nick 'Sharkey' Moore wrote: Ethernet-derived addresses are indeed also an issue, but they're hypothetically unique ... so we're back to estimating the inestimable ... are they less likely to collide than 3041 because of this suppose

RE: IPv6 WG Last Call:draft-ietf-ipv6-optimistic-dad-03.txt

2005-01-28 Thread john . loughney
Christian, > Rhetorical question: how long will it take before computers > systematically configure a new MAC address each time they reboot, or > each time they roam to a new network? Some l2's / networks are doing this already. John -