IPv6 WG Last Call:draft-ietf-ipv6-ndproxy-02.txt

2005-05-24 Thread Brian Haberman
IPv6 WG, This begins a 1-week Working Group Last Call on advancing: Title : Bridge-like Neighbor Discovery Proxies (ND Proxy) Author(s) : D. Thaler, et al. Filename: draft-ietf-ipv6-ndproxy-02.txt Pages : 20 Date:

RE: IPv6 WG Last Call:draft-ietf-ipv6-ndproxy-02.txt

2005-05-24 Thread juha . wiljakka
Hi, I warmly support moving forward with this document as this is useful piece of work. I don't have bigger issues with the current draft. BR, -Juha W.- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of ext Brian Haberman Sent: 24 May, 2005 14:40

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call:draft-ietf-ipv6-ndproxy-02.txt

2005-05-24 Thread Margaret Wasserman
I have a process-related concern with draft-ietf-ipv6-ndproxy-02.txt that I would like to discuss on this list to see what others think... I haven't reached the point (yet) where I have a fully-formed objection, but I have a strong enough concern that I thought it would be worth some

2461bis update

2005-05-24 Thread Soliman, Hesham
Hi all, I submitted an updated revision of 2461bis which includes the resolutions that were agreed on by the WG in the last meeting (the SLLAO thread). It also includes fixes for the comments Tatuya raised on the last version. I think this draft is now ready for the IESG. Thanks, Hesham

purpose of m/o bit

2005-05-24 Thread Thomas Narten
I wonder if there is key question here that the community has simply not agreed on (yet), and that that question is at the heart of all this confusion. Does the community feel that operators need RA bits that control/indicate whether a client is to invoke DHC? That is, is there a need for the sys

Original intent of M/O bits [was Re: IPv6 WG Last Call:draft-ietf-ipv6-ra-mo-flags-01.txt ]

2005-05-24 Thread Thomas Narten
JINMEI Tatuya / =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCP0BMQEMjOkgbKEI=?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If we respect both the original sense of RFC2462 and our consensus about the semantics separation of the M/O flags, I believe the right solution is the following: I think we should be careful NOT

RE: IPv6 WG Last Call:draft-ietf-ipv6-ndproxy-02.txt

2005-05-24 Thread Bound, Jim
Brian and authors, My response below. Thus I cannot support this going to the IESG without further discussion as my input. I also support Margaret's request for this to be checked by RTSP persons, and I realize Dave T. clearly has this expertise but it is a good logic check. Unless we want to

RE: purpose of m/o bit

2005-05-24 Thread Bound, Jim
Does the community feel that operators need RA bits that control/indicate whether a client is to invoke DHC? That is, is there a need for the sys admin to signal to client whether DHC is to be invoked? yes. Second, is it important that such a signal be honored by clients? (That is, if

RE: purpose of m/o bit

2005-05-24 Thread Bernie Volz \(volz\)
Thomas/Jim: I believe that most of us are in agreement on the main points -- the bit(s) are useful and SHOULD be acted on by clients accordingly. I believe were there are issues are in the details about what each bit means and how they interact and what happens if they're not set correctly.

RE: purpose of m/o bit

2005-05-24 Thread Bound, Jim
Bernie, I think your honing down to valid points. I view m bit set implying o bit use too. but that is not stated. /jim -Original Message- From: Bernie Volz (volz) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 11:36 AM To: Bound, Jim; Thomas Narten; ipv6@ietf.org;

FW: IPv6 WG Last Call:draft-ietf-ipv6-ndproxy-02.txt

2005-05-24 Thread Bound, Jim
Resending. I did not see it come back to me. Sorry for duplicates if that is the case. /jim -Original Message- From: Bound, Jim Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 10:45 AM To: 'Brian Haberman'; IPv6 WG Cc: Bob Hinden Subject: RE: IPv6 WG Last Call:draft-ietf-ipv6-ndproxy-02.txt Brian and

I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ipv6-2461bis-03.txt

2005-05-24 Thread Internet-Drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the IP Version 6 Working Group Working Group of the IETF. Title : Neighbor Discovery for IP version 6 (IPv6) Author(s) : T. Narten, et al. Filename

Re: AD Review comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-privacy-addrs-v2-03

2005-05-24 Thread Suresh Krishnan
Hi Margaret, Thanks for the comments and the text. I have submitted version -04 of the draft with the suggested changes. Let me know if you have any more issues you would like me to address. Cheers Suresh On Fri, 13 May 2005, Margaret Wasserman wrote: At 10:15 AM -0400 5/11/05, Suresh

Re: purpose of m/o bit

2005-05-24 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
On Tue, 24 May 2005 10:45:19 -0400, Thomas Narten [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Does the community feel that operators need RA bits that control/indicate whether a client is to invoke DHC? That is, is there a need for the sys admin to signal to client whether DHC is to be invoked? In my

Re: Original intent of M/O bits

2005-05-24 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
On Tue, 24 May 2005 10:46:06 -0400, Thomas Narten [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: If we respect both the original sense of RFC2462 and our consensus about the semantics separation of the M/O flags, I believe the right solution is the following: I think we should be careful NOT to get hung up on

Re: purpose of m/o bit

2005-05-24 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
On Tue, 24 May 2005 11:35:41 -0400, Bernie Volz (volz) [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I believe were there are issues are in the details about what each bit means and how they interact and what happens if they're not set correctly. Personally I think the last issue should be a non-issue since

RE: purpose of m/o bit

2005-05-24 Thread Soohong Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
But if the client supports both (really this means it is a full 3315 client), does it do both in parallel, initiate stateful (Solicits) and failover to stateless at some point (and does it continue to do stateful in the background), or? These areas that are not well documented in the DHCPv6

RE: purpose of m/o bit

2005-05-24 Thread Bernie Volz \(volz\)
I don't have any issues if we wanted to keep 2 bits - just figured simpler is better. Note that if we drop one of those bits, we would not want to reuse if for another purpose for a long time -- that would allow backward compatibility for those environments that need it. But again, I really

RE: purpose of m/o bit

2005-05-24 Thread Soohong Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Does the community feel that operators need RA bits that control/indicate whether a client is to invoke DHC? That is, is there a need for the sys admin to signal to client whether DHC is to be invoked? YES Second, is it important that such a signal be honored by clients? (That is, if

Re: [dhcwg] Re: Original intent of M/O bits

2005-05-24 Thread Ralph Droms
Regarding breaking backward compatibility - this compatibility affects only clients, right? Can we answer the question: exactly how would existing clients (and I'll bet we can enumerate all the available clients) be affected by a change in definition? How would the observed behavior of the

Re: [dhcwg] Re: Original intent of M/O bits

2005-05-24 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
On Tue, 24 May 2005 22:39:41 -0400, Ralph Droms [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Regarding breaking backward compatibility - this compatibility affects only clients, right? Can we answer the question: exactly how would existing clients (and I'll bet we can enumerate all the available clients) be