Re: New Consensus call on RH0 Deprecation

2007-08-28 Thread Christopher Morrow
On 8/28/07, David Malone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 03:53:22PM -0400, Suresh Krishnan wrote: > > >I would be curious how people feel about these choices if they also apply > > >to (as they should) IPv4 source routing. > > > I think the problems, though overlapping, are com

Re: [dhcwg] Re: Rethinking autoconfig, was Re: prefix length determination for DHCPv6

2007-08-28 Thread Ted Lemon
On Aug 23, 2007, at 5:20 AM, Mark Smith wrote: I don't like doing that sort of thing, but I like that both the DHCP server and hosts are robust enough to handle it gracefully when I do. A few extra packets seems to me to be a relatively small price to pay for robustness and resilience. I'm

RE: New Routing Header!!!

2007-08-28 Thread Christian Huitema
Before we invent a new header, have we looked at ways were the current legitimate usage could be solved by dedicated applications? Something in the spirit of traceroute, maybe with a little cooperation from the involved players in the spirit of UDP echo? Specialized applications open a much smaller

Re: New Routing Header!!!

2007-08-28 Thread Vishwas Manral
Hi Arnaud, > It seems the draft intends to update RFC 2460. Does it imply that RH4 > would be mandatory to implement in all IPv6 stacks? It's probably me but > I don't see the point in adding complexity to IPv6 stacks (_all_ > implementations shipped), especially when the functionality has already

Re: New Routing Header!!!

2007-08-28 Thread Arnaud Ebalard
Hi Vishwas, Hi *, Vishwas Manral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > Based on feedback from the group, we have written a draft for a new > routing header. The functionality is the same as the RH0. The draft > will soon be posted to the IETF site. > > The main differences are: > > 1. Maximum up

Re: New Consensus call on RH0 Deprecation

2007-08-28 Thread David Malone
On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 03:53:22PM -0400, Suresh Krishnan wrote: > >I would be curious how people feel about these choices if they also apply > >to (as they should) IPv4 source routing. > I think the problems, though overlapping, are completely different in > magnitude. The problem with IPv4 sour

New Routing Header!!!

2007-08-28 Thread Vishwas Manral
Hi, Based on feedback from the group, we have written a draft for a new routing header. The functionality is the same as the RH0. The draft will soon be posted to the IETF site. The main differences are: 1. Maximum up to 4 addresses in the header. (the number is based on the reply I got for the

Re: New Consensus call on RH0 Deprecation

2007-08-28 Thread Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino
> I was unaware until just now that IPv4 source routing had *not* been > deprecated by IETF already. I must have been misinformed about > that. It's certainly not viewed with any favor among the circles > I've been in most recently. packets with IPv4 options wouldn't go far because

Re: New Consensus call on RH0 Deprecation

2007-08-28 Thread Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino
the last call was finished, but for a bit of nitpicking: > I don't think that Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino's response to him was > helpful. It's alarmist and incorrect to say that delaying RFC > publication in order to get the wording right means that people can't > deploy _today_ based on th

Re: New Consensus call on RH0 Deprecation

2007-08-28 Thread Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino
> > magnitude. The problem with IPv4 source routing is not AS SEVERE as the > > problem with RH0. > > Also (and this seems to have been overlooked up-thread), we're in > relatively early days with IPv6, so the installed base we have to go "small" includes 22 million copies of MacOS X.

2461bis AUTH48 changes

2007-08-28 Thread Jari Arkko
Folks, The 2461bis document has been for a (long) while in AUTH48. This is also affecting other documents that are pending for the RFC to come out. One of the reasons why this has taken so long is that a number of issues were raised on the list, privately to me, and in IESG review of some other d