Re: [dhcwg] Request for Advices on the draft draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt

2008-10-06 Thread Ralph Droms
Thomas - you wrote: unless something has changed (and I have seen no indication of this), the WG should not take on this topic or discuss it further because there is no consensus to make any changes. One part of the situation that may have changed - or, perhaps, wasn't considered - is the

Re: [dhcwg] Request for Advices on the draft draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt

2008-10-06 Thread Ralph Droms
Bernie - my suggested clarifications help the situation in that the flags are currently underspecified (in fact, IMHO, confusingly specific) relative to the previous consensus about their definition. Deprecating the bits would require a new consensus. - Ralph On Oct 6, 2008, at Oct 6,

RE: [dhcwg] Request for Advices on the draft draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt

2008-10-06 Thread Bernie Volz (volz)
Ralph: Your changes effectively deprecate them. - Bernie -Original Message- From: Ralph Droms (rdroms) Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 9:59 AM To: Bernie Volz (volz) Cc: Ralph Droms (rdroms); Thomas Narten; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; DHC WG; IPV6 List Mailing; Brzozowski John Subject: Re:

Re: [dhcwg] Request for Advices on the draft draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt

2008-10-06 Thread Ralph Droms
Bernie - The point of my suggested text is, in fact, to better describe the definitions reached in the previous consensus rather than make any changes. In my opinion, the suggested text represents clarification and does not make any changes to those definitions. - Ralph On Oct 6, 2008,

I-D Action:draft-ietf-6man-ipv6-subnet-model-02.txt

2008-10-06 Thread Internet-Drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the IPv6 Maintenance Working Group of the IETF. Title : IPv6 Subnet Model: the Relationship between Links and Subnet Prefixes Author(s) : H. Singh, et al.

RE: Neighbor Discovery from non-neighbors

2008-10-06 Thread Hemant Singh (shemant)
David, We updated the draft based on your recommendations. See the link below for the new draft. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-6man-ipv6-subnet-model-02 .txt We appreciated the urgency of your security concern because BSD is vulnerable and this new version should fix any

Re: Neighbor Discovery from non-neighbors

2008-10-06 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
At Sun, 5 Oct 2008 08:37:34 -0400, Hemant Singh (shemant) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BSD has a bug that it needs to fix. Further, it's debatable that separation of ND-cache and data forwarding table for a node are not a protocol-level requirement. RFC4861 clearly describes a Conceptual

Re: [dhcwg] Request for Advices on the draft draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt

2008-10-06 Thread hyunwook cha
snipped from Ralph's posting One part of the situation that may have changed - or, perhaps, wasn't considered - is the case of implementors reading RFC 486[12] without the knowledge of previous discussions of the M/O flags. How will those implementors interpret the text in RFCs 486[12] and

Re: v6ops-addcon and longer than 64 bit prefixes

2008-10-06 Thread Jari Arkko
It is not a recommendation, as long as the e.g. part is in the text. And it already is, so no problem. (But Tony's and Fred's suggested edits certainly deserve to be taken into account.) Jari Brian E Carpenter wrote: Marla, In what sense is (e.g. on a basis of /48) a recommendation?

Re: what problem is solved by proscribing non-64 bit prefixes?

2008-10-06 Thread Jari Arkko
Alex, I agree with what you said, but I wanted to point out one thing: In a typical IPv6 ADSL household landscape... An ADSL IPv6 operational deployment offers a /64 prefix at home. The DSL Forum recommendations for IPv6 are being worked on. I believe they are based on the concept of