Re: Pseudorandom Flow Labels

2011-04-07 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Setting the flow label by calling random() cannot be a stateless method - it would mean storing the value for use on future packets of the same flow. We need a stateless method. Brian On 2011-04-07 10:16, Fernando Gont wrote: Hi, Shane, On 06/04/2011 06:44 p.m., Shane Amante wrote: *

Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-flow-3697bis-02.txt

2011-04-07 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2011-04-07 08:22, Scott Brim wrote: On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 14:49, Thomas Narten nar...@us.ibm.com wrote: Scott Brim scott.b...@gmail.com writes: A Flow is a sequence of packets originating from a particular application that should be treated the same by the network as they are

Re: Pseudorandom Flow Labels

2011-04-07 Thread Fernando Gont
On 07/04/2011 04:32 a.m., Brian E Carpenter wrote: Setting the flow label by calling random() cannot be a stateless method - it would mean storing the value for use on future packets of the same flow. We need a stateless method. Oops, you're right. (Although for FLs set by end nodes this

Re: Pseudorandom Flow Labels

2011-04-07 Thread John Leslie
Fernando Gont ferna...@gont.com.ar wrote: On 06/04/2011 05:44 p.m., John Leslie wrote: Fernando Gont ferna...@gont.com.ar wrote: * We want Flow Labels that unpredictable by off-path attackers (history has taught us that this is a good proactive measure) I'm afraid I don't follow: what

Introducing draft-6man-addresspartnaming

2011-04-07 Thread Richard Hartmann
Dear all, Fred Baker asked me to move draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming-04 [1] to 6man. Thus, we are reintroducing it as draft-6man-addresspartnaming-00 without changing anything in the actual text. The DENOG reference has been removed for internal and political reasons but this ID still stems

Re: Introducing draft-6man-addresspartnaming

2011-04-07 Thread Bob Hinden
Richard, It is good to discuss this in 6man on the IPv6 list, but if you are going to resubmit the draft it should be named something like: draft-hartmann-6man-addresspartnaming-00 as it is an individual draft, not a 6man working group document. Thanks, Bob On Apr 7, 2011, at 1:07 PM,

Re: Introducing draft-6man-addresspartnaming

2011-04-07 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 23:52, Bob Hinden bob.hin...@gmail.com wrote:  draft-hartmann-6man-addresspartnaming-00 The main work is shared between two editors listed alphabetically so I am unsure how to name this fairly. Suggestions? draft-donnerhackehartmann-6man-addresspartnaming-00 is a tad too

Re: Introducing draft-6man-addresspartnaming

2011-04-07 Thread Karl Auer
On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 22:07 +0200, Richard Hartmann wrote: The second question on my mind is if using MUST for hextet is appropriate. Using SHOULD is fine as well though I personally think MUST is better to avoid any and all potential confusion. hextet - oh dear. Were there really no better

Re: Introducing draft-6man-addresspartnaming

2011-04-07 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 03:54, Karl Auer ka...@biplane.com.au wrote: hextet - oh dear. Were there really no better suggestions than quibble and hextet? If you look at -02 of the initial draft, you will find a full list. Googling for the name of the ID will bring up a lot of discussions on