Re: Flow label drafts updated

2011-05-06 Thread Thomas Narten
George, Wes E [NTK] wesley.e.geo...@sprint.com writes: [WEG] now it's my turn to be confused by your comment, Brian. I missed this detail of interpretation when reviewing the draft for LC, and I apologize, but I think it's pretty important... From the 3697bis draft: There is no way to

Re: Short 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-node-req-bis-09.txt

2011-05-06 Thread Thomas Narten
Hi Ole. Thanks for the review! I'm on the fence with regards to this document. if this document is meant to be the RFC1122/1812 document for IPv6, I think we are too early in the deployment of IPv6 to have gathered enough experience with what works and what doesn't. as a profile of an IPv6

Re: Short 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-node-req-bis-09.txt

2011-05-06 Thread Ole Troan
Thomas, Thanks for the review! I'm on the fence with regards to this document. if this document is meant to be the RFC1122/1812 document for IPv6, I think we are too early in the deployment of IPv6 to have gathered enough experience with what works and what doesn't. as a profile of an

RE: Short 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-node-req-bis-09.txt

2011-05-06 Thread john.loughney
Thomas, One small comment and one small nit, inline: * 5.9.4 Default Address Selection As RFC3484 generates IPv6 brokenness. I think we should change this reference to RFC3484bis. Can't do that. That would delay publication of the RFC. BTW, you could make the same arguement w.r.t.

RE: Flow label drafts updated

2011-05-06 Thread George, Wes E [NTK]
-Original Message- From: Thomas Narten [mailto:nar...@us.ibm.com] Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 9:27 AM Subject: Re: Flow label drafts updated Is the UDP port number mutable? Is the TCP sequence number immutable? [WEG] I think both are immutable because there's a checksum to detect changes.

Re: Flow label drafts updated

2011-05-06 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Ran, I'm obliged to repeat myself: there has been endless feedback in the WG that the flow label remains defined as immutable, so any middlebox that changes it is violating the standard. Of course the chairs can tell me this is now an open issue, but we have been over it many times. Regards

Re: Flow label drafts updated

2011-05-06 Thread Brian E Carpenter
below... On 2011-05-07 07:50, George, Wes E [NTK] wrote: -Original Message- From: Thomas Narten [mailto:nar...@us.ibm.com] Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 9:27 AM Subject: Re: Flow label drafts updated Is the UDP port number mutable? Is the TCP sequence number immutable? [WEG] I think