Re: [Roll] trickle-mcast-04 - Clarify scope value of 3 - subnet-local

2013-07-26 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
At Thu, 25 Jul 2013 14:46:45 +, Ralph Droms (rdroms) rdr...@cisco.com wrote: I understand, but perhaps it would be better, if, when another use case comes along, they write a document explaining why scope-3 is correct and non-conflicting with the trickle mcast use case. I don't

Re: [Roll] trickle-mcast-04 - Clarify scope value of 3 - subnet-local

2013-07-26 Thread Michael Richardson
Having had a number of private exchanges with Ralph, I support the document as worded. It was not clear to me before that trickle-mcast will be *expected* to define what it means for the scope to be defined automatically from the network topology I thought that further clarification of the use

Re: [Roll] Dissenting technical arguments unwelcome

2013-07-26 Thread Emmanuel Baccelli
Hi Michael, actually, MANET protocols have been working for years to provide mesh-over routing, without multi-link subnets. To understand better the link properties you have to deal with, you could take a look at this draft

RE: [Roll] Dissenting technical arguments unwelcome

2013-07-26 Thread Richard Kelsey
From: Emmanuel Baccelli [emmanuel.bacce...@inria.fr] Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 4:50 AM As Ulrich mentioned, the conclusion of AUTOCONF was that IP links as we know them do *not* make sense in a spontaneous wireless multi-hop environment. This conclusion was documented in RFC 5889, which

Re: [Roll] Dissenting technical arguments unwelcome

2013-07-26 Thread Don Sturek
Hi Emmanuel, I think if route over protocols are to adhere to RFC 5889, much more work needs to go into making ULAs useful. For our project we used:6LoWPAN (RFC 4944), 6LoWPAN-ND (RFC 6775), ROLL RPL (RFC 650), mDNS (RFC 6762) with some extensions to use ULAs (among others) and I can say