Re: Stupid ULA discussion

2007-12-06 Thread Per Heldal
On Fri, 2007-12-07 at 10:32 +1300, Brian E Carpenter wrote: On 2007-12-06 13:28, Per Heldal wrote: and ULA does IMHO not qualify as such. IMHO ULA does qualify, in fact must qualify, since ULAs have technical impact (see my previous note and Tony Hain's comment on it). I still

Re: Stupid ULA discussion

2007-12-05 Thread Per Heldal
On Wed, 2007-12-05 at 11:39 -0800, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: ULA is LOCAL. It has nothing to do with PI. People need address space to number the links between their SQL and web servers. This is completely orthogonal to address space used on the internet. If it's routed at some

Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-mrw-6man-ulac-analysis-00

2007-11-20 Thread Per Heldal
On Tue, 2007-11-20 at 15:28 +1300, Brian E Carpenter wrote: On 2007-11-12 22:15, Per Heldal wrote: Regardless of the listed arguments one may also question IETFs role in the definition of (any) ULA as there is no technical reason why such an address-block must be tagged 'special'. I'm

Re: draft-ietf-ipv6-ula-central-02.txt

2007-07-11 Thread Per Heldal
On Wed, 2007-07-11 at 12:21 +0100, Jeroen Massar wrote: The question here still remains though: how really different is this from PI. In effect it is non-DFZ-PI space that is being defined here. RIR's themselves could thus also set aside a /20 or something and allocate /40-/48's from that

Re: draft-ietf-ipv6-ula-central-02.txt

2007-07-10 Thread Per Heldal
On Mon, 2007-07-09 at 10:05 -0500, Stephen Sprunk wrote: * ULA-C/G are NOT ment to be used on internet OTOH, there's no way for the IETF or RIRs to stop it from happening. I'm not saying it will, but it is irresponsible to claim it won't when there's no mechanism to enforce that.

Re: draft-ietf-ipv6-ula-central-02.txt

2007-07-10 Thread Per Heldal
On Mon, 2007-07-09 at 16:44 -0700, bill fumerola wrote: AfriNIC apparently has decided they can get into the routability business by stipulating that PIv6 space allocated must be 'announced' within a year or it will be taken back. the first time they use that clause to take back space,

Re: draft-ietf-ipv6-ula-central-02.txt

2007-07-10 Thread Per Heldal
On Tue, 2007-07-10 at 14:11 -0500, Stephen Sprunk wrote: Thus spake Per Heldal [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 2007-07-09 at 10:05 -0500, Stephen Sprunk wrote: * ULA-C/G are NOT ment to be used on internet OTOH, there's no way for the IETF or RIRs to stop it from happening. I'm not saying

Re: [ppml] draft-ietf-ipv6-ula-central-02.txt use cases

2007-06-28 Thread Per Heldal
On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 10:12 +0200, Brian E Carpenter wrote: On 2007-06-27 13:54, Per Heldal wrote: On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 23:48 -0500, Stephen Sprunk wrote: If we want to issue address space to folks for private use, it needs to be out of the same block(s) that the RIRs use to allocate

Re: [ppml] draft-ietf-ipv6-ula-central-02.txt use cases

2007-06-27 Thread Per Heldal
On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 23:48 -0500, Stephen Sprunk wrote: If we want to issue address space to folks for private use, it needs to be out of the same block(s) that the RIRs use to allocate space for public use, because sooner or later those private networks are going to end up being publicly