delivering this sort of privacy
protection.
Alissa
>
> Thanks,
> Ammar
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: sth...@nethelp.no [mailto:sth...@nethelp.no]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 6:28 PM
> To: ammar.sa...@auis.edu.iq
> Cc: ma...@isc.org;
sday, November 21, 2012 6:28 PM
To: ammar.sa...@auis.edu.iq
Cc: ma...@isc.org; geop...@ietf.org; ipv6@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Geopriv] Adding GPS location to IPv6 header
You can probably get a *hint* about my location from an IP lookup.
You can definitely not be certain my location
Well, with the
On 11/22/12 02:43, Ammar Salih wrote:
Dears,
I can see almost everyone agrees to that the RIR info is not accurate and in
many cases is incorrect, so why the hassle of assigning wrong locations? And
why developers are building their applications based on incorrect
information.
And frankly speak
Hi Ammar,
At 23:43 21-11-2012, Ammar Salih wrote:
many cases is incorrect, so why the hassle of assigning wrong locations? And
why developers are building their applications based on incorrect
information.
Developers take the data wherever they can find it. The information
which is distilled
PM
To: ammar.sa...@auis.edu.iq
Cc: ma...@isc.org; geop...@ietf.org; ipv6@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Geopriv] Adding GPS location to IPv6 header
> > You can probably get a *hint* about my location from an IP lookup.
> > You can definitely not be certain my location
>
> Well, with t
sday, November 21, 2012 2:12 PM
To: ammar.sa...@auis.edu.iq
Cc: ma...@isc.org; geop...@ietf.org; ipv6@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Geopriv] Adding GPS location to IPv6 header
> One last point, is that your current IP address reflects your
> location, I can simply do ip lookup and find out your loc
> > You can probably get a *hint* about my location from an IP lookup. You can
> > definitely not be certain my location
>
> Well, with the new draft, you can do the same, location accuracy can be
> tweaked to reflect city only, or city and region..etc.
And what makes you think I'm interested in
> One last point, is that your current IP address reflects your location, I
> can simply do ip lookup and find out your location. Would that be also
> considered as privacy breach?
You can probably get a *hint* about my location from an IP lookup. You
can definitely not be certain my location - si
> Ammar Salih writes:
>> There are LOTS of ISPs between the client and the destination. Most
>> of these can get nothing about your location.
> They can get much more! trust me, the point is that if you don't
> trust the ISP then you should be worried about all your un-encrypted
> tra
2012 10:05 AM
To: Ammar Salih
Cc: 'John Pickens (jopicken)'; geop...@ietf.org; ipv6@ietf.org; 'Fred Baker
(fred)'
Subject: Re: [Geopriv] Adding GPS location to IPv6 header
In message <50abfe21.82da0e0a.5c65.9...@mx.google.com>, "Ammar Salih"
writes:
> > As
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> From: John Pickens (jopicken) [mailto:jopic...@cisco.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 11:48 PM
> To: Carl Reed; Richard L. Barnes
> Cc: geop...@ietf.org; ipv6@ietf.org; Ammar Salih; Fred Baker (fred)
> Subject: RE: [Geopriv] Adding GPS location to IPv6 head
and exploring tools,
thanks for the note, appreciate it!
Thanks,
Ammar
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From: Richard L. Barnes [mailto:rbar...@bbn.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:50 PM
To: Ammar Salih
Cc: 'Fred Baker (fred)'; geop...@ietf.org; ipv6@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Geopriv] Ad
John Pickens (jopicken) [mailto:jopic...@cisco.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 11:48 PM
To: Carl Reed; Richard L. Barnes
Cc: geop...@ietf.org; ipv6@ietf.org; Ammar Salih; Fred Baker (fred)
Subject: RE: [Geopriv] Adding GPS location to IPv6 header
I've been monitoring this thread. In the IETF t
oun...@ietf.org [mailto:geopriv-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
Carl Reed
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 12:15 PM
To: Richard L. Barnes
Cc: geop...@ietf.org; ipv6@ietf.org; Ammar Salih; Fred Baker (fred)
Subject: Re: [Geopriv] Adding GPS location to IPv6 header
Gotcha - thanks!
Carl
-Original Me
Gotcha - thanks!
Carl
-Original Message-
From: Richard L. Barnes
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 1:12 PM
To: Carl Reed
Cc: Ammar Salih ; geop...@ietf.org ; ipv6@ietf.org ; 'Fred Baker (fred)'
Subject: Re: [Geopriv] Adding GPS location to IPv6 header
References for DHC
Why define yet another location
> element for IPv6?
>
> Thanks
>
> Carl Reed, PhD
> CTO
> OGC
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Richard L. Barnes
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 11:49 AM
> To: Ammar Salih
> Cc: geop...@ietf.org ; ipv6@ietf.org ; &#
; 'Fred Baker (fred)'
Subject: Re: [Geopriv] Adding GPS location to IPv6 header
Hi Ammar,
I have read your draft. From what I can tell, it is just a summary of the
arguments in this thread. It would be more helpful if you could add a level
of technical detail to help people unde
Hi Ammar,
I have read your draft. From what I can tell, it is just a summary of the
arguments in this thread. It would be more helpful if you could add a level of
technical detail to help people understand. I would want to see at least:
1. The format of the IPv6 option
2. Where it is to be ad
At 02:11 12-11-2012, Robin Wilton wrote:
- The people who would have to do the work to implement and deploy
the enhancement are not the ones who would get the direct benefit -
which makes it hard to build a rationale for doing it.
http://www.cleanitproject.eu/
Regards,
-sm
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Indeed, many operating systems now include a location API -- this has been
driven by the mobile operating systems but is now included in other operation
systems such as Apples OS X. These location API's use various techniques such
as Wi-Fi, Cell, GPS, and IP positioning to attempt to determine
Coming to this quite late in the discussion, here's my 2ยข, in case it helps
provide a relatively disinterested (but not *un*-interested) summary so far:
- The benefits expected from the proposed enhancement seem very hard for the
mailing list to pin down and express (some are disputed as benefit
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