Re: Removing features

2003-10-14 Thread Juan Rodriguez Hervella
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 11:36, Jeroen Massar wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Juan Rodriguez Hervella wrote: SNIP Do you know what are the problems that *root zone operators* are experiencing with RFC 1918 addresses ? It would be very interesting if you could explain

Re: Removing features

2003-10-13 Thread Juan Rodriguez Hervella
On Saturday 11 October 2003 08:46, Leif Johansson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: snip | This is based on the assumption that leaking RFC 1918 routing | information or packets with RFC 1918 source or destination addresses is | actually

RE: Removing features

2003-10-13 Thread Jeroen Massar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Juan Rodriguez Hervella wrote: On Saturday 11 October 2003 08:46, Leif Johansson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: snip | This is based on the assumption that leaking RFC 1918 routing | information

Re: Removing features

2003-10-11 Thread Leif Johansson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: snip | | This is based on the assumption that leaking RFC 1918 routing | information or packets with RFC 1918 source or destination addresses is | actually harmful in and of itself. This is a broken assumption. If Tell that

RE: Removing features

2003-10-10 Thread Margaret . Wasserman
Hi Fred, So in the general case I don't see a problem with deprecating things under the right circumstances, but I do have a problem with removing them outright. Deprecation doesn't prevent people from using them, but outright removal can be dangerous. And in this case, the assertion

Re: Removing features

2003-10-10 Thread Rob Austein
No offense, folks, but if you really must have yet another round of this interminable discussion, could you please trim the cc: list? Four copies of each message is a bit much. Thanks. IETF IPv6 working group mailing list

Re: Removing features

2003-10-10 Thread Fred Baker
At 12:55 PM 10/10/2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All in all, however, I think outright removal, although short-term more painful, will be less troublesome than many years of debugging problems caused by 1918-style leakage of addresses for a deprecated feature. That may be so. It is a third

Re: Removing features

2003-10-10 Thread Keith Moore
So the basic concept is (in my opinion) broken and needs to be euthanized. This is based on the assumption that leaking RFC 1918 routing information or packets with RFC 1918 source or destination addresses is actually harmful in and of itself. no, it's based on (among other things)

RE: Removing features

2003-10-10 Thread Fred Baker
At 03:03 PM 10/10/2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fred, I hope that this resolves your technical concern about this particular case, and I apologize for not making this distinction clear in my response to Scott. yes, it does. In this case, I was responding to an increase in the complexity of the