Re: draft-chakrabarti-nordmark-6man-efficient-nd-00.txt

2012-11-02 Thread Carsten Bormann
The two areas in which I think this proposal can benefit from some more discussion: Clearly, mitigating the external ND table DoS is one of the major pain points addressed by this. Thinking point: Is there any way to structure the transition from legacy ND to efficient ND in such a way

Fwd: Re: draft-chakrabarti-nordmark-6man-efficient-nd-00.txt

2012-11-02 Thread Erik Nordmark
[I don't know if this made it to the list] Original Message Subject: Re: draft-chakrabarti-nordmark-6man-efficient-nd-00.txt Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 14:18:07 -0700 From: Erik Nordmark nordm...@sonic.net To: Mark ZZZ Smith markzzzsm...@yahoo.com.au CC: Carsten Bormann c

Re: draft-chakrabarti-nordmark-6man-efficient-nd-00.txt

2012-11-02 Thread Erik Nordmark
On 11/1/12 11:23 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: But most of this only helps with the addresses for which hosts actually exist. In the transition, routers still need to implement rate-limiting on their multicast NS. (With Efficient-ND, hosts defer to routers for finding other hosts.) Maybe we

Re: draft-chakrabarti-nordmark-6man-efficient-nd-00.txt

2012-11-01 Thread Erik Nordmark
On 10/11/12 11:23 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: Two quick comments: -- this still uses 10 seconds as a scaler for the ARO registration lifetime. 6LoWPAN-ND used to use 10, but now uses 60 seconds. Oops - we'll fix. -- I'm not too wild about the E-bit. Maybe we should extract the 6CIO from

Re: draft-chakrabarti-nordmark-6man-efficient-nd-00.txt

2012-11-01 Thread Carsten Bormann
On Nov 1, 2012, at 22:28, Erik Nordmark nordm...@acm.org wrote: -- I'm not too wild about the E-bit. Maybe we should extract the 6CIO from draft-bormann-6lowpan-ghc and use this? I don't understand the relationship. The E-bit is there to specify that the router supports AROs. That way the

RE: draft-chakrabarti-nordmark-6man-efficient-nd-00.txt

2012-11-01 Thread Samita Chakrabarti
Hi Carsten, Please see below in-line with === prefix. -Original Message- From: Carsten Bormann [mailto:c...@tzi.org] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 2:55 PM To: Erik Nordmark Cc: Samita Chakrabarti; 6man Mailing List Subject: Re: draft-chakrabarti-nordmark-6man-efficient-nd-00.txt

Re: draft-chakrabarti-nordmark-6man-efficient-nd-00.txt

2012-11-01 Thread Carsten Bormann
On Nov 2, 2012, at 00:51, Samita Chakrabarti samita.chakraba...@ericsson.com wrote: If you are concerned about flag bit shortage in RFC 4861 RA format, then the solution exists. It is RFC 5175 (IPv6 Router Adv Flags option). Ah, right. This information is carried in RA only, so that can

Re: draft-chakrabarti-nordmark-6man-efficient-nd-00.txt

2012-10-12 Thread Carsten Bormann
Two quick comments: -- this still uses 10 seconds as a scaler for the ARO registration lifetime. 6LoWPAN-ND used to use 10, but now uses 60 seconds. -- I'm not too wild about the E-bit. Maybe we should extract the 6CIO from draft-bormann-6lowpan-ghc and use this? The two areas in which I

Re: draft-chakrabarti-nordmark-6man-efficient-nd-00.txt

2012-10-12 Thread Mark ZZZ Smith
Hi, - Original Message - From: Carsten Bormann c...@tzi.org To: Samita Chakrabarti samita.chakraba...@ericsson.com Cc: 6man Mailing List ipv6@ietf.org Sent: Friday, 12 October 2012 5:23 PM Subject: Re: draft-chakrabarti-nordmark-6man-efficient-nd-00.txt T wo quick comments: snip