Re: adding one source address selection rule to rfc3484

2010-11-08 Thread Tore Anderson
Hi, * Arifumi Matsumoto > But, your suggestion of Rule 4.5 does more than de-prioritization > of 6to4 prefix. It de-prioritizes 6to4 _routers_ - rule 6 is taking care of de-prioritizing the 6to4 prefix. All put together, this ensures the source address selection algorithm selects an address wit

Re: adding one source address selection rule to rfc3484

2010-11-07 Thread Arifumi Matsumoto
Hi, >> IMO, it's a matter of local network policy whether fe80::bad is >> really good or bad. > > RFC 3484 with the default policy table already considers 6to4 source > addresses worse than native addresses. I don't think it is > controversial to similarly consider 6to4 routers as worse than na

Re: adding one source address selection rule to rfc3484

2010-11-07 Thread Tore Anderson
Hello again, * Arifumi Matsumoto > Correct. But, I think the latter case is less problematic, in that > it avoids avoidable troubles. Agreed. While it does not avoid all potential troubles, it does seem likely that it will cause less problems overall than the current algorithm. > IMO, it's a m

Re: adding one source address selection rule to rfc3484

2010-11-07 Thread Arifumi Matsumoto
Hi Tore, On 2010/11/07, at 19:56, Tore Anderson wrote: > * Arifumi Matsumoto > >> As I said, prioritization between IPv4 and IPv6 is a matter of >> destination address selection, which my suggestion does not have any >> effect on. Usually, native IPv6 is preferred over IPv4 in a >> environmen

Re: adding one source address selection rule to rfc3484

2010-11-07 Thread Tore Anderson
* Arifumi Matsumoto > As I said, prioritization between IPv4 and IPv6 is a matter of > destination address selection, which my suggestion does not have any > effect on. Usually, native IPv6 is preferred over IPv4 in a > environment that you assume here. > > In a situation where IPv6 is preferr

Re: adding one source address selection rule to rfc3484

2010-11-01 Thread Arifumi Matsumoto
Hi, 2010/11/1 Tore Anderson : > Hello Arifumi, > > * Arifumi Matsumoto > >> On a host to which my suggestion is applied, >> if the next-hop is 6to4 advertising host/router, then the source >> address will be 6to4. >> If the next-hop is native IPv6 adverting router, then the source >> address will

Re: adding one source address selection rule to rfc3484

2010-11-01 Thread Tore Anderson
Hello Arifumi, * Arifumi Matsumoto > On a host to which my suggestion is applied, > if the next-hop is 6to4 advertising host/router, then the source > address will be 6to4. > If the next-hop is native IPv6 adverting router, then the source > address will be native IPv6. > And, it's depending on w

Re: adding one source address selection rule to rfc3484

2010-10-31 Thread Arifumi Matsumoto
Hi, On 2010/10/27, at 16:00, Ole Troan wrote: >> Off the top of my head, I thought about a new rule to the RFC 3484. >> It's really a simple rule, and seems to solve several problematic >> cases related to address selection. >> The rule is: >> >> Prefer to select an address as the source address

Re: adding one source address selection rule to rfc3484

2010-10-31 Thread Arifumi Matsumoto
Hi, thanks for sharing your concern. My comments below. On 2010/10/31, at 20:31, Tore Anderson wrote: > Hi, > > * Arifumi Matsumoto > >> Off the top of my head, I thought about a new rule to the RFC 3484. >> It's really a simple rule, and seems to solve several problematic >> cases related to

Re: adding one source address selection rule to rfc3484

2010-10-31 Thread Tore Anderson
Hi, * Arifumi Matsumoto > Off the top of my head, I thought about a new rule to the RFC 3484. > It's really a simple rule, and seems to solve several problematic > cases related to address selection. > The rule is: > > Prefer to select an address as the source address that is > assigned by t

Re: adding one source address selection rule to rfc3484

2010-10-29 Thread Aleksi Suhonen
On 10/27/10 07:00, Ole Troan wrote: Prefer to select an address as the source address that is assigned by the selected next-hop. I think this is a good idea. we have talked on and off about it for a long time > (I actually thought it was written down somewhere). My alternative addr-sel a

Re: adding one source address selection rule to rfc3484

2010-10-27 Thread Ole Troan
> Off the top of my head, I thought about a new rule to the RFC 3484. > It's really a simple rule, and seems to solve several problematic > cases related to address selection. > The rule is: > > Prefer to select an address as the source address that is > assigned by the selected next-hop. > > T

adding one source address selection rule to rfc3484

2010-10-26 Thread Arifumi Matsumoto
Hi all, Off the top of my head, I thought about a new rule to the RFC 3484. It's really a simple rule, and seems to solve several problematic cases related to address selection. The rule is: Prefer to select an address as the source address that is assigned by the selected next-hop. This rul