On Wed, 2016-07-13 at 19:28 +0200, Erik Muller wrote:
> On 6/8/16 20:37 , Erik Kline wrote:
> > On 9 June 2016 at 03:16, Ole Troan wrote:
> > > Mikael,
> > >
> > > > > We also tried (and failed) to come up with a secure mechanism
> > > > > for the requesting router to advertise it's delegated pre
On 6/8/16 20:37 , Erik Kline wrote:
> On 9 June 2016 at 03:16, Ole Troan wrote:
>> Mikael,
>>
We also tried (and failed) to come up with a secure mechanism for the
requesting router to advertise it's delegated prefix to first-hop routers.
Less astonished? ;-)
>>>
>>> Well, I g
bounces+fred.l.templin=boeing@lists.cluenet.de] On Behalf Of Templin,
> Fred L
> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 2:52 PM
> To: Nick Hilliard
> Cc: ipv6-ops@lists.cluenet.de
> Subject: RE: DHCPv6 relay with PD
>
> Hi Nick,
>
> More on this, please see Section 3.7 on the
n Behalf Of Nick
> > Hilliard
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 2:13 PM
> > To: Templin, Fred L
> > Cc: ipv6-ops@lists.cluenet.de
> > Subject: Re: DHCPv6 relay with PD
> >
> > Templin, Fred L wrote:
> > > Folks, for real – read AERO. It works. I apol
Nick,
>> It shouldn't be the IETF's job to tell people how to run their networks.
>> The IETF provides the building blocks.
>
> Take a DHCP server, an ISP access router and a CPE.
>
> The CPE connects to the ISP access router and issues a dhcp request.
> This is relayed by the access device to t
L
> Cc: ipv6-ops@lists.cluenet.de
> Subject: Re: DHCPv6 relay with PD
>
> Templin, Fred L wrote:
> > Folks, for real – read AERO. It works. I apologize if that offends anyone.
>
> Not at all. It's just that I'm confused about why we would need to
> resort to a tunne
Templin, Fred L wrote:
> Folks, for real – read AERO. It works. I apologize if that offends anyone.
Not at all. It's just that I'm confused about why we would need to
resort to a tunneling protocol in order to make basic ipv6 functionality
work.
Would it not be better to try to make ipv6 work wi
Folks, for real – read AERO. It works. I apologize if that offends anyone.
Fred
Wait, Wait!
So your telling me that it's wrong for DHCPv6 servers to feed default
gateways to endpoints because "who better than the router to know whom to
route too" but for DHCPv6-PD we should rely on the DHCPv6 servers to do
route injection?
This is classic! just classic!
Take this back to t
>>> So basically, regarding how to actually implement PD in a network (from an
>>> IETF point of view), everybody just gave up, declared the problem
>>> unsolvable, and went back to sleep?
>>
>> It shouldn't be the IETF's job to tell people how to run their networks.
>> The IETF provides the bui
Ole Troan wrote:
> It shouldn't be the IETF's job to tell people how to run their networks.
> The IETF provides the building blocks.
Take a DHCP server, an ISP access router and a CPE.
The CPE connects to the ISP access router and issues a dhcp request.
This is relayed by the access device to the
On Wed, 8 Jun 2016, Ole Troan wrote:
So basically, regarding how to actually implement PD in a network (from
an IETF point of view), everybody just gave up, declared the problem
unsolvable, and went back to sleep?
It shouldn't be the IETF's job to tell people how to run their networks.
The IE
Pv6 Ops list ; Mikael Abrahamsson
>
> Subject: Re: DHCPv6 relay with PD
>
> On 9 June 2016 at 03:16, Ole Troan wrote:
> > Mikael,
> >
> >>> We also tried (and failed) to come up with a secure mechanism for the
> >>> requesting router to advertise it&#x
Mikael,
>> We also tried (and failed) to come up with a secure mechanism for the
>> requesting router to advertise it's delegated prefix to first-hop routers.
>>
>> Less astonished? ;-)
>
> Well, I guess I shouldn't be astonished. I've even seen vendors implement the
> DHCPv6-PD server on the
-ops@lists.cluenet.de; Mikael Abrahamsson
> Subject: Re: DHCPv6 relay with PD
>
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 12:39:03PM +0200, Ole Troan wrote:
> > > I've talked to several people who claim there are lots of equipment out
> > > there which will happily do DHC
On Wed, 8 Jun 2016, Ole Troan wrote:
We also tried (and failed) to come up with a secure mechanism for the
requesting router to advertise it's delegated prefix to first-hop
routers.
Less astonished? ;-)
Well, I guess I shouldn't be astonished. I've even seen vendors implement
the DHCPv6-PD
Hi,
On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 12:39:03PM +0200, Ole Troan wrote:
> > I've talked to several people who claim there are lots of equipment out
> > there which will happily do DHCPv6 relaying of PD messages, but then not
> > install a route for the corresponding delegation.
>
> That's perfectly fine
Mikael,
>>> I've talked to several people who claim there are lots of equipment out
>>> there which will happily do DHCPv6 relaying of PD messages, but then not
>>> install a route for the corresponding delegation.
>>
>> That's perfectly fine behaviour by the way.
>> DHCPv6 PD snooping is just
On Wed, 8 Jun 2016, Ole Troan wrote:
I've talked to several people who claim there are lots of equipment out there
which will happily do DHCPv6 relaying of PD messages, but then not install a
route for the corresponding delegation.
That's perfectly fine behaviour by the way.
DHCPv6 PD snoopi
> I've talked to several people who claim there are lots of equipment out there
> which will happily do DHCPv6 relaying of PD messages, but then not install a
> route for the corresponding delegation.
That's perfectly fine behaviour by the way.
DHCPv6 PD snooping is just one way of doing route i
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Subject: DHCPv6 relay with PD
Hi,
I've talked to several people who claim there are lots of equipment out there
which will happily do DHCPv6 relaying of PD messages, but then not install a
route for the corresponding delegation.
One example seems to be HP 5400zl.
My own experien
> 2 juni 2016 kl. 15:11 skrev Mikael Abrahamsson :
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I've talked to several people who claim there are lots of equipment out there
> which will happily do DHCPv6 relaying of PD messages, but then not install a
> route for the corresponding delegation.
>
> One example seems to be
Hi,
I've talked to several people who claim there are lots of equipment out there
which will happily do DHCPv6 relaying of PD messages, but then not install a
route for the corresponding delegation.
One example seems to be HP 5400zl.
My own experience is only when I did this with a DOCSIS C
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