Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

On 13 February 2014 21:23, James Small wrote: > Interested in what you’re using to send/receive SMTP over IPv6: > A) Using Postfix on Ubuntu, for mailing lists > B) Using Google Apps for Education for MX/SMTP -- Dick Visser System & Networking Engineer TERENA Secretariat Singel 468 D, 1017 A

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

Hi, On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 08:44:59AM +1000, Noel Butler wrote: > On Wed, 2014-02-19 at 10:54 +0100, Gert Doering wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 02:45:33PM +1000, Noel Butler wrote: > > > We block only by IP from whatever spam source is used (4, or 6), and > > > rbldnsd handles ipv6 nicely

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

Hi Gert, On Wed, 2014-02-19 at 10:54 +0100, Gert Doering wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 02:45:33PM +1000, Noel Butler wrote: > > We block only by IP from whatever spam source is used (4, or 6), and > > rbldnsd handles ipv6 nicely (albeit in /64's - fair enough too, since > > most end u

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

On Feb 19, Daniel Roesen wrote: > This is btw standard setup in the DOCSIS world. All CPEs get a single IP > out of a shared /64. In case the CPE is not a customer PC but a router > (most customers have that), of course DHCPv6-PD is used to issue > prefixes. Nevertheless, there is a non-insignifi

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:54:14AM +0100, Gert Doering wrote: > Blocking by /64 by default is likely to get collateral damage. Enough > people do shared subnets with multiple customers in the same /64 - while > I won't recommend it, it is *done*, and blocking the whole /64 because > you have seen

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

Hi, On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 02:45:33PM +1000, Noel Butler wrote: > We block only by IP from whatever spam source is used (4, or 6), and > rbldnsd handles ipv6 nicely (albeit in /64's - fair enough too, since > most end users get that, typically), so your MTA's query would get a > response from you

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

On 19/02/2014 14:29, Doug Barton wrote: > On 02/18/2014 07:55 PM, SM wrote: > Hi Doug, At 17:52 18-02-2014, Doug Barton wrote: My point is that all the > hooha about "We can't do mail over IPv6 because we can't do IP address > reputation" seems to be nonsense. There are plenty of ways to do

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

On 02/18/2014 07:55 PM, SM wrote: Hi Doug, At 17:52 18-02-2014, Doug Barton wrote: My point is that all the hooha about "We can't do mail over IPv6 because we can't do IP address reputation" seems to be nonsense. There are plenty of ways to do spam filtering that don't involve keeping a log of e

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

Hi Doug, At 17:52 18-02-2014, Doug Barton wrote: My point is that all the hooha about "We can't do mail over IPv6 because we can't do IP address reputation" seems to be nonsense. There are plenty of ways to do spam filtering that don't involve keeping a log of every single IP address that sends

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

On 02/13/2014 12:23 PM, James Small wrote: Interested in what you’re using to send/receive SMTP over IPv6: A) Using postfix from Venema B) I run my own I have been interested in the assertion that we cannot do SMTP on IPv6 because there are no reliable methods of doing spam prevention. So ev

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

On Feb 17, Gert Doering wrote: > But I'm sure you can do UUCP over IPv6... :-) I do. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

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Hi, On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 03:37:28PM +, Nick Hilliard wrote: > On 17/02/2014 15:16, Ignatios Souvatzis wrote: > > Not necessarily. All I'd imagine to do with UUCP can be done with > > postfix and maybe transport tables; I've run a connection that way > > for a couple of years. > > This is r

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 03:37:28PM +, Nick Hilliard wrote: > On 17/02/2014 15:16, Ignatios Souvatzis wrote: > > Not necessarily. All I'd imagine to do with I should maybe have added: "e-mail over" > > UUCP can be done with > > postfix and maybe transport tables; I've run a connection that way

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

On 17/02/2014 15:16, Ignatios Souvatzis wrote: > Not necessarily. All I'd imagine to do with UUCP can be done with > postfix and maybe transport tables; I've run a connection that way > for a couple of years. This is rapidly turning into a contest of who's admitting to the greatest MTA horrors. N

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

Hi, On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 01:58:09PM +0100, S.P.Zeidler wrote: > Sendmail does have an advantage if/when you e.g. have uucp connections Not necessarily. All I'd imagine to do with UUCP can be done with postfix and maybe transport tables; I've run a connection that way for a couple of years.

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

hello, On 02/17/2014 01:46 PM, Gert Doering wrote: If you think sendmail is not cutting-edge, you have never harmed yourself trying to make it work! I'm sorry I started this off-topic flame war... I start using sendmail in 1990s and it was the best, but it was some ages ago, when all mail se

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

Thus wrote emilio brambilla (emi...@ngi.it): > PS it's very odd to see so much sendmail on this list, where I would > bet to see something more cutting-edge even on the software side! for infrastructure, you run "bleeding edge" for two reasons: a) you have no choice, it's the only thing that will

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

Hi, On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 09:47:28AM +0100, emilio brambilla wrote: > PS it's very odd to see so much sendmail on this list, where I would bet > to see something more cutting-edge even on the software side! If you think sendmail is not cutting-edge, you have never harmed yourself trying to mak

RE: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

emilio brambilla wrote: > PS it's very odd to see so much sendmail on this list, where I would bet > to see something more cutting-edge even on the software side! What's that you say? Sendmail is not "cutting-edge"? best regards, Andreas -- Telefónica Germany GmbH & Co. OHG Andreas

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

hello, On 02/14/2014 02:48 PM, Matthew Huff wrote: The only consistent smtp over IPv6 email we receive is from the nanog and this list. hum... all email from gmail hosted domain come over ipv6 (from hundreds of different locations!), not only a few mlist. PS it's very odd to see so much s

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

On 13.02.2014 21:23, James Small wrote: Interested in what you're using to send/receive SMTP over IPv6: A) Using (product) from __ (vendor) B) Using (service provider or "cloud solution") C) Elected not to implement SMTP over IPv6 at this time because ___

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

A) Using Postfix (product) from Wietse (vendor) B) Using AS57771 and AS12414 (service provider or “cloud solution”) C) Elected not to implement SMTP over IPv6 at this time because N.A. Fully IPv6 capable (reason) Sander

RE: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

> Interested in what you're using to send/receive SMTP over IPv6: > > A) Using "sendmail" (product) from "FreeBSD" (vendor) best regards, Andreas -- Telefónica Germany GmbH & Co. OHG Andreas Schwarz, NT NO BOTA BOIPFA Überseering 33a, D-22297 Hamburg fon: +49-40-23726-3892,

RE: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

A) Using Ironport ESA (product) from Cisco (vendor), fully ipv6 enabled at edge. Internally, Exchange 2013 The only consistent smtp over IPv6 email we receive is from the nanog and this list. From: ipv6-ops-bounces+mhuff=ox@lists.cluenet.de [mailto:ipv6-ops-bounces+mhuff=ox@list

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 03:23:21PM -0500, James Small wrote: Interested in what you're using to send/receive SMTP over IPv6: A) Using Postfix rgds, Sascha Luck

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

Le 13 févr. 2014 à 21:23, James Small a écrit : > Interested in what you’re using to send/receive SMTP over IPv6: > A) Using (product) from __ (vendor) > B) Using (service provider or “cloud solution”) > C) Elected not to implement SMTP over IPv6 at this time because >

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

"James Small" writes: > Interested in what you’re using to send/receive SMTP over IPv6: > > A) Using (product) from __ (vendor) postfix on Debian Jens -- | Foelderichstr. 40 | 13595 Berlin, Germany

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

Key 70EF9882: DEC2 C685 1ED4 C95A 145F 4300 6F64 7B00 70EF 9882 On Thu, 13 Feb 2014, James Small wrote: Interested in what you?re using to send/receive SMTP over IPv6: A) Using (product) from __ (vendor) We are using postfix/exim from various Linux/*BSD distribution.

RE: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

A) postfix on Solaris In the user environment we introduced later Exchange 2010 (on Windows, what a surprise ;-). But we have v4 hubs in between as neither our "great IPv6 supporting" firewall with content AV scanning nor commercial "AV/SPAM" filtering appliances / SW products (at least not the o

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

"James Small" writes: > Interested in what you're using to send/receive SMTP over IPv6: Wouldn't it be simpler and more precise to just inspect a few headers from your list archive? Anyway, as you could have found from the received fields of this email: A) Using Exim from Debian A) Using Sendm

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

On 13 Feb 2014, at 20:23, James Small > wrote: Interested in what you’re using to send/receive SMTP over IPv6: A) Using (product) from __ (vendor) B) Using (service provider or “cloud solution”) C) Elected not to implement SMTP over IPv6 at

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

On 13-2-2014 21:23, James Small wrote: > Interested in what you’re using to send/receive SMTP over IPv6: > > A) Using (product) from __ (vendor) > > B) Using (service provider or “cloud solution”) > > C) Elected not to implement SMTP over IPv6 at this time because > ___

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

A) Using Postfix from Ubuntu. Cheers, Raoul -- DI (FH) Raoul Bhatia M.Sc. | E-Mail. ra...@bhatia.at Software Development and | Web. http://raoul.bhatia.at/ System Administration | Tel. +43 699 10132530

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 03:23:21PM -0500, James Small wrote: > Interested in what you're using to send/receive SMTP over IPv6: > > A) Using (product) from __ (vendor) three systems where I'm (partially) responsible 1. A) Using postfix from NetBSD 2. partially A) (clients to sub

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

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Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

Interested in what you’re using to send/receive SMTP over IPv6: A) Using Postfix + OpenBSD Солдатов Валерий, ЗАО Бэст Телеком.

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

On 14/02/2014 06:23, James Small wrote: > Interested in what you're using to send/receive SMTP over IPv6: > > A) Using (product) from __ (vendor) postfix from source on slackware

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

On 2014-02-13 at 15:23 -0500, James Small wrote: > Interested in what you're using to send/receive SMTP over IPv6: > > A) Using (product) from __ (vendor) Exim, from The Exim Maintainers; I'm one, and the mail between exim.org and my own mail box routinely goes over IPv6. To sen

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

On 13. feb. 2014 21:23, James Small wrote: Interested in what you’re using to send/receive SMTP over IPv6: A) Using (product) from __ (vendor) B) Using (service provider or “cloud solution”) C) Elected not to implement SMTP over IPv6 at this time because _

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

Hi, On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 03:23:21PM -0500, James Small wrote: > Interested in what you're using to send/receive SMTP over IPv6: > > A) Using _sendmail_(product) from __ (vendor) > A) Using _postfix__(product) from __ (vendor) > A) Using _ironport_(product) from _Cisco (ve

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

Postfix 2.9.5 on FreeBSD best Enno On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 03:23:21PM -0500, James Small wrote: > Interested in what you're using to send/receive SMTP over IPv6: > > A) Using (product) from __ (vendor) > > B) Using (service provider or "cloud solution") > > C) Elect

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

Postfix + Spamassassin

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

As a private person (e...@vyncke.org), Postfix on Ubuntu w/o spam filter hence receiving a few spam... On 13/02/14 21:31, "Pim van Pelt" wrote: >2014-02-13 12:23 GMT-08:00 James Small : >> Interested in what you're using to send/receive SMTP over IPv6: >Hard to answer your question. You are not

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

On 13 Feb 2014, at 20:23, James Small wrote: > Interested in what you’re using to send/receive SMTP over IPv6: > A) Using (product) from __ (vendor) > B) Using (service provider or “cloud solution”) > C) Elected not to implement SMTP over IPv6 at this time because > ___

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

On 2/13/2014 2:23 PM, James Small wrote: Interested in what you're using to send/receive SMTP over IPv6: A) Using (product) from __ (vendor) B) Using (service provider or "cloud solution") C) Elected not to implement SMTP over IPv6 at this time because _

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

A) Using Postfix from RedHat (CentOS) On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 1:23 PM, James Small wrote: > Interested in what you're using to send/receive SMTP over IPv6: > > A) Using (product) from __ (vendor) > > B) Using (service provider or "cloud solution") > > C) Elected not to

RE: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

C) Because our current vendor does not support it and anti-spam is seen as mandatory within the business. /JF

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

On 13/02/2014 20:23, James Small wrote: Interested in what you’re using to send/receive SMTP over IPv6: Using Sendmail from FreeBSD. Thanks, Daniel.

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

Hoi, And for completeness ... 2014-02-13 12:31 GMT-08:00 Pim van Pelt : > 2014-02-13 12:23 GMT-08:00 James Small : >> Interested in what you're using to send/receive SMTP over IPv6: > Hard to answer your question. You are not giving a lot of context for > your inquiry, but here goes: > A) Using S

Re: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

2014-02-13 12:23 GMT-08:00 James Small : > Interested in what you're using to send/receive SMTP over IPv6: Hard to answer your question. You are not giving a lot of context for your inquiry, but here goes: A) Using Sendmail from OpenBSD. groet, Pim -- Pim van Pelt PBVP1-RIPE - http://www.ipng.n