Re: going abolitionist

2020-07-14 Thread Marton Balazs
Postoffice / postbox? It's about mails after all, isn't it? :-) On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 07:13:50PM +0200, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 09:29:39AM -0400, Andy W wrote: > > Maybe getting away from the fundamental idea of directionality isn't at > > all possible, > > > well

Re: going abolitionist

2020-07-14 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 09:29:39AM -0400, Andy W wrote: Maybe getting away from the fundamental idea of directionality isn't at all possible, well, of course not. or at least implicit directionality? huh? the idea is to avoid suggesting a _particular_ direction (too strongly). So, with t

Re: going abolitionist

2020-07-14 Thread Roman Bolshakov
On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 3:05 PM Oswald Buddenhagen < oswald.buddenha...@gmx.de> wrote: > On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 12:03:20AM +0300, Evgeniy Berdnikov wrote: > > Consider 'parent' and 'child': 2nd sounds like 'replica' or 'clone'. > > > not bad. we might have a winner right off the bat. ^^ > > Many

Re: going abolitionist

2020-07-14 Thread ARaspiK via isync-devel
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Re: going abolitionist

2020-07-14 Thread Stefan Monnier
brother/sister? itchy/scratchy? More seriously, why do we have to give them such generic names? Aren't they individually and explicitly given a meaningful name already anyway? E.g. Channel work Endpoint :work-remote: ... Endpoint :work-local: ... and that would na

Re: going abolitionist

2020-07-14 Thread Andy W
Maybe getting away from the fundamental idea of directionality isn't at all possible, or at least implicit directionality? Consider this - whenever there is a sync operation, regardless of which direction that sync occurs, there is (perhaps) a direction of flow of traffic, at the lowest of levels,

Re: going abolitionist

2020-07-14 Thread tk
Setting aside my thoughts on the practical impact renaming silliness... How about left/right? This is how StrongSwan (an IPSEC) client handles it. There may be no directionality implied, but there's still a concept of "stuff here" and "stuff there". On Tue, Jul 14, 2020, at 6:04 AM, Oswald Budd

Re: going abolitionist

2020-07-14 Thread Yuri D'Elia
On Tue, Jul 14 2020, Roman Bolshakov wrote: > I'm not a fan of the renaming movement solely for sake of virtual > signalling but here it makes sense. > > - remote / local > > Better carries the semantics and it’s short. In my setup master is local. __

Re: going abolitionist

2020-07-14 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 12:03:20AM +0300, Evgeniy Berdnikov wrote: Consider 'parent' and 'child': 2nd sounds like 'replica' or 'clone'. not bad. we might have a winner right off the bat. ^^ Many wrote: "remote" and "local" could work. nice try, but nope - while this terminology reflects the

Re: going abolitionist

2020-07-13 Thread synflower--- via isync-devel
How about male / female? ...sorry ... On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 10:35:19PM -0700, MGC wrote: 'remote/local' sounds good to me. -- /gc On Jul 14 06:57 AM, Roman Bolshakov wrote: I'm not a fan of the renaming movement solely for sake of virtual signalling but here it makes sense. - remote / lo

Re: going abolitionist

2020-07-13 Thread MGC
'remote/local' sounds good to me. -- /gc On Jul 14 06:57 AM, Roman Bolshakov wrote: I'm not a fan of the renaming movement solely for sake of virtual signalling but here it makes sense. - remote / local Better carries the semantics and it’s short. I have such piece of config for all my mailbo

Re: going abolitionist

2020-07-13 Thread Roman Bolshakov
I'm not a fan of the renaming movement solely for sake of virtual signalling but here it makes sense. - remote / local Better carries the semantics and it’s short. I have such piece of config for all my mailboxes since I started using mbsync: [...] Channel work Master :work-remote: Slave :work-lo

Re: going abolitionist

2020-07-13 Thread Mehul Sanghvi
> On Jul 13, 2020, at 15:06 , Oswald Buddenhagen > wrote: > > with all the recent commotion also in the tech world, i'm revisiting the idea > to deprecate 'slave' terminology ('master' is much less problematic, but > would probably go as well for symmetry). > > i never really liked it anywa

Re: going abolitionist

2020-07-13 Thread David Ringo
On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 3:07 PM Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > i never really liked it anyway once i started to think about it > (obviously, quite a while after i introduced it ...), because it > suggests a strict hierarchy that isn't really there, as bi-directional > synchronization is supported. >

Re: going abolitionist

2020-07-13 Thread Evgeniy Berdnikov
On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 09:06:22PM +0200, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > the problem is that this equally applies to many potential replacements, > like 'replica'. maybe 'clone' is better, as it's more easily associated with > having its own life, and git already established the term. but what to put

going abolitionist

2020-07-13 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
with all the recent commotion also in the tech world, i'm revisiting the idea to deprecate 'slave' terminology ('master' is much less problematic, but would probably go as well for symmetry). i never really liked it anyway once i started to think about it (obviously, quite a while after i intr