Re: Maven builds

2007-02-18 Thread karl wettin
Just out of curiosity, did you try using Maven for more than building? As I see it, the killer application is the development environment intergration combined with release management and dependency automation. These are the features that I hope will bring people to the dark side. I ended

Re: Maven builds

2007-02-16 Thread Chris Hostetter
My investigations into maven2 have led me to similar conclusions that other's seem to have expressed: great tool, looks perfect for people starting from scratch - solves lots of problems, most of which we've already solved other ways ... training users to use the maven ways instead of our existing

Re: Maven builds

2007-02-16 Thread karl wettin
15 feb 2007 kl. 20.44 skrev karl wettin: I'll see what I can do this weekend. Should I do everything to keep the same file structure as now? It would be easier if nobody have any opinions about restructuring to Maven-style. Perhaps a script that set it up from the current? -- karl

Re: Maven builds

2007-02-16 Thread Yonik Seeley
On 2/16/07, Sami Siren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 2007/2/15, Yonik Seeley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > My first impression of maven: > Pretty websites as part of the build system - cool! And it's > *great* for starting > a new project... unit tests automatically run, website is built, > automatic

Re: Maven builds

2007-02-16 Thread Michael Wechner
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Sami Siren wrote: 2007/2/15, Yonik Seeley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: My first impression of maven: Pretty websites as part of the build system - cool! And it's *great* for starting a new project... unit tests automatically run, website is built, automatic packaging, j

Re: Maven builds

2007-02-16 Thread karl wettin
16 feb 2007 kl. 11.17 skrev Sylvain Wallez: Ant + Ivy [1] are as powerful and infinitely more flexible. If you have the time and knowledge, feel free to do something with it. Perhaps demonstrate the dependency stuff from Ivy with gdata, the benchmarker or so. I don't mind evaluating multi

Re: Maven builds

2007-02-16 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Sami Siren wrote: > 2007/2/15, Yonik Seeley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> My first impression of maven: >> Pretty websites as part of the build system - cool! And it's >> *great* for starting >> a new project... unit tests automatically run, website is built, >> automatic packaging, jar/war build,

Re: Maven builds

2007-02-16 Thread Sami Siren
2007/2/15, Yonik Seeley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: My first impression of maven: Pretty websites as part of the build system - cool! And it's *great* for starting a new project... unit tests automatically run, website is built, automatic packaging, jar/war build, everything you need! But, it all se

Re: Maven builds

2007-02-16 Thread Lukas Vlcek
Hi, I don't want to disturb other folks from their meditation but I am all for experimental maven build process for Lucene. If we are talking about mvn (maven2) then I won't be able to help much (as I have hands-on experience with maven1.x - btw is it possible to use Jelly in mvn? As far as I kno

Re: Maven builds (was: [VOTE] release Lucene 2.1)

2007-02-16 Thread Lukas Vlcek
07, at 12:10 PM, karl wettin wrote: > >> I would not mind introducing Maven builds in Lucene. It would > >> solve /at least/ this problem. And it would merge so great with my > >> other projects. :) I'd be happy to help out , but there are some > >> wicked anting

Re: Maven builds (was: [VOTE] release Lucene 2.1)

2007-02-16 Thread Lukas Vlcek
h m2. Regards, Lukas On 2/15/07, karl wettin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 15 feb 2007 kl. 20.27 skrev Erik Hatcher: > On Feb 15, 2007, at 12:10 PM, karl wettin wrote: >> I would not mind introducing Maven builds in Lucene. It would >> solve /at least/ this problem. And it wou

Re: Maven builds

2007-02-15 Thread Doug Cutting
karl wettin wrote: However, I don't think that the Buddha defined Nivana as "good enough". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana, "It is a mode of being that is free from mind-contaminants (Kilesa) such as lust, anger or craving." That's not far from "good enough". Doug --

Re: Maven builds

2007-02-15 Thread Robert Koberg
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 18:58:00 -0500, karl wettin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 16 feb 2007 kl. 00.37 skrev Slava Imeshev: My personal opinion is that Ant is good enough and that Java has reached build automation nirvana with it, just like C/C++ with make. Did I start yet another tech-religo

Re: Maven builds

2007-02-15 Thread karl wettin
16 feb 2007 kl. 00.37 skrev Slava Imeshev: My personal opinion is that Ant is good enough and that Java has reached build automation nirvana with it, just like C/C++ with make. Did I start yet another tech-religous war thread now? Sorry about that. However, I don't think that the Buddha de

Re: Maven builds

2007-02-15 Thread Slava Imeshev
it's not really your call. If I had a voice I'd vote for multi-threaded indexing in Lucene instead of implementing Maven builds. - Original Message - From: "Grant Ingersoll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 2:55 PM Subject: Re: Mave

Re: Maven builds

2007-02-15 Thread Grant Ingersoll
www.jroller.com/page/fate/?anchor=maven_refresher_course - Original Message - From: "karl wettin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 2:05 PM Subject: Re: Maven builds 15 feb 2007 kl. 23.03 skrev Steven Rowe: I'll see what I can do this weeken

Re: Maven builds

2007-02-15 Thread Slava Imeshev
ROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 2:05 PM Subject: Re: Maven builds > > 15 feb 2007 kl. 23.03 skrev Steven Rowe: > > >> I'll see what I can do this weekend. > > > > "Maven" refers to two very different products. Which version to use

Re: Maven builds

2007-02-15 Thread karl wettin
15 feb 2007 kl. 23.03 skrev Steven Rowe: I'll see what I can do this weekend. "Maven" refers to two very different products. Which version to use ought to be a serious consideration. Karl, do you mean to use Maven 1.X or Maven2? Maven2. mvn. -- karl -

Re: Maven builds

2007-02-15 Thread Steven Rowe
karl wettin wrote: > > 15 feb 2007 kl. 20.27 skrev Erik Hatcher: >> On Feb 15, 2007, at 12:10 PM, karl wettin wrote: >>> I would not mind introducing Maven builds in Lucene. It would solve >>> /at least/ this problem. And it would merge so great with my other >>

Re: Maven builds

2007-02-15 Thread Grant Ingersoll
I think a POM for Lucene core and demo is pretty trivial, since there are no dependencies, although I haven't tried Maven 2 yet. Contrib modules w/ dependencies is a little bit harder and getting them all to work together is a bit more on top of that. We made the switch to Maven 1 at CNLP

Re: Maven builds

2007-02-15 Thread karl wettin
15 feb 2007 kl. 21.24 skrev Yonik Seeley: But, it all seems like magic to me... if I want to do something different, even a minor little change, I don't know where to start. If I want to add an additional compile flag, where does that go??? I have no idea. To change the behavior (like u

Re: Maven builds

2007-02-15 Thread Yonik Seeley
My first impression of ant: Ok, the syntax is a little funky, and I can't re-use my knowledge of command line options to tools w/o doing an exec... I need to learn the "ant" parameters for all the different tasks now. I can look at a build.xml and tweak/fix it because there isn't too much "magi

Re: Maven builds

2007-02-15 Thread Doug Cutting
primary build system. Doug karl wettin wrote: 15 feb 2007 kl. 20.27 skrev Erik Hatcher: On Feb 15, 2007, at 12:10 PM, karl wettin wrote: I would not mind introducing Maven builds in Lucene. It would solve /at least/ this problem. And it would merge so great with my other projects. :) I'

Maven builds (was: [VOTE] release Lucene 2.1)

2007-02-15 Thread karl wettin
15 feb 2007 kl. 20.27 skrev Erik Hatcher: On Feb 15, 2007, at 12:10 PM, karl wettin wrote: I would not mind introducing Maven builds in Lucene. It would solve /at least/ this problem. And it would merge so great with my other projects. :) I'd be happy to help out , but there are