Re: contrib and lucene 3.0

2009-10-31 Thread Grant Ingersoll
On Oct 30, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Robert Muir wrote: I don't want to come across as negative here... i'm not trying to single anyone out, just a bit confused as to why my issue was singled out when theres already been both new features and new deprecations added to 3.0, and the issue in quest

Re: contrib and lucene 3.0

2009-10-30 Thread Robert Muir
definitely wasn't trying to single you out, again. besides, this isn't the only instance. just the one that i could remember. I'll set LUCENE-1606 to 3.1, even tho it doesn't deprecate anything, lets focus on clearing this shit up and making a clean 3.0 release. On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 5:30 PM,

Re: contrib and lucene 3.0

2009-10-30 Thread Michael McCandless
Mea culpa ;) (on LUCENE-1781) And I agree we need a better solution in general. I think not deprecating new stuff until the .0 release is out seems best? I think this .0 release is also especially challenging because we're (well, Uwe and a few others -- thanks)'re taking advantage of 1.5's new

Re: contrib and lucene 3.0

2009-10-30 Thread Mark Miller
Negative shcmegative :) Your right - this needs to be handled better. If we are going to add new deprecations before all of the old deprecations are removed, there needs to be help in the javadocs. Of course its nothing against those that did it - they likely didn't see this issue - I don't think

Re: contrib and lucene 3.0

2009-10-30 Thread Robert Muir
I don't want to come across as negative here... i'm not trying to single anyone out, just a bit confused as to why my issue was singled out when theres already been both new features and new deprecations added to 3.0, and the issue in question doesnt even have any deprecations. then again i don't r

Re: contrib and lucene 3.0

2009-10-30 Thread Mark Miller
What deprecations were already added? Robert Muir wrote: > well, not to complain, but I will mention on this topic. > > If something is marked deprecated, its 10x easier if in the javadocs > there is some version information applied. > > In the wild west that is contrib, its currently a bit diffic

Re: contrib and lucene 3.0

2009-10-30 Thread Robert Muir
well, not to complain, but I will mention on this topic. If something is marked deprecated, its 10x easier if in the javadocs there is some version information applied. In the wild west that is contrib, its currently a bit difficult for me to clear out the deprecations from 2.9, because there are

Re: contrib and lucene 3.0

2009-10-30 Thread Robert Muir
by the way, this russian example is only one I'm familiar with, its hardly the only new deprecation introduced in 3.0 theres been other new features added to contrib in 3.0, and theres been other new deprecations added to contrib in 3.0 I saw this when I started trying to clear out the contrib de

Re: contrib and lucene 3.0

2009-10-30 Thread Robert Muir
Grant, in this case the new contribution does not require any deprecation, it is another implementation for regex and wildcard query that works a bit differently than the others. Not to stray off-topic, but your comment does apply to RussianLowerCaseFilter, which is currently marked deprecated in

Re: contrib and lucene 3.0

2009-10-30 Thread Mark Miller
I have no problem with new features either - but I would vote that if it requires new deprecations, it should wait. I think its nice to have a clean release first. And I also don't think any of this features should hold up the 3.0 release. Lets get it out - then focus on new features. Grant Inger

Re: contrib and lucene 3.0

2009-10-30 Thread Grant Ingersoll
How do you handle deprecations of old stuff for the new contribution (assuming it needs it)? Seems weird to have a major release that immediately has deprecations. At the same time, it seems weird to have a major release that doesn't contain new features. If anything, it is our best oppo

Re: contrib and lucene 3.0

2009-10-30 Thread DM Smith
I don't see any reason to freeze new contributions from any release. On 10/30/2009 03:19 PM, Robert Muir wrote: thanks Michael. does anyone else have any opinion on this issue? fyi we already have several new features committed to 3.0 contrib already (see contrib/CHANGES), but I don't too much

Re: contrib and lucene 3.0

2009-10-30 Thread Robert Muir
thanks Michael. does anyone else have any opinion on this issue? fyi we already have several new features committed to 3.0 contrib already (see contrib/CHANGES), but I don't too much care either way, if I should not be adding this feature to 3.0, I'd like to set the version in jira to 3.1 On Fri,

Re: contrib and lucene 3.0

2009-10-23 Thread Michael McCandless
I think we should allow new features into contrib for 3.0. I don't even like holding new features from core for 3.0. In general I don't think it's healthy when trunk is locked down Trunk should be like a locomotive that's plowing ahead at all times. Mike On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Rob

contrib and lucene 3.0

2009-10-22 Thread Robert Muir
Hi, What is the consensus on new features for contrib for Lucene 3.0? I know that for core, its mostly a java 5 upgrade and deprecation removal. I want to make sure LUCENE-1606 is set to the right version, but I figured its really not just about that specific issue, I would like to know the plans