On Tue, May 30, 2000 at 11:16:39AM +0200, Stefan Bodewig wrote:
> http://jakarta.apache.org of course 8^).
Of course, force of habit.
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latest development in the servlet engine, and it runs ok.
If I understan well the doc, JServ is not going to be developed further so
Tomcat is the future. See http://jakarta.apache.com.
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at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(EventQueue.java:258)
> at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(EventDispatchThread.java:68)
>
>
>
> I know that it requires jdk1.2.2 but I probed various JVM´s and get the
> same exceptio
it's not really
> meaningful to anyone besides Sun and their licensees.
Scott, I disagree with that since I saw the term used in several companies
in the industry.
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you very much for your help.
thanks for your patience :) and don't esitate to contact me or post on the
newsgroup we have for JBuilder/Linux.
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ily switched to another JDK.
> I cannot use VisualAge since they support only 1.1.8. I did not try
> DDD - soes it work with GNOME? I heard that it works only with KDE.
BTW, I tried JBuilder with Blackdown's RC4 and it seems to work.
Congratulations to the team. It's still early to con
ase will have the bug fix.
Glad to see RC4, I'll give it a try with JBuilder tomorrow.
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> utilization is practically nill, and the GUI is extremely responsive.
The Sun/Inprise JDK is not cerified for native threads, the green
threads implementation has been tested for performance so the result
you obtain is the expe
Stephen,
great job with the FAQ, thanks for putting this together.
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On Mon, Jan 03, 2000 at 08:24:42PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> This might sound ignorant, but everything I've read is about
> java programming syntax and stuff like that. My question is
> how do you run a java program? Just using java ./Clock2 doesn't
> work. I either get "class not found" o
un's
> (libsunwjit.so)? I suppose Sun JIT does not and Inprise
> JIT may possibly do. If Inprise JIT does not, JBuilder
> should suffer it. Or is debugging possible as far as JIT
> is disabled?
I'll forward the qu
ly JDI requires an additional JAR file
> named jpda.jar, which contains the following packages.
Check.
> Only JVM itself can provide JVMDI functions. I
> understood it is the reason why Inprise guys decideed to
> develop their JDK.
One of them.
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ed som esort of tool to make this task
a little easier).
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e best solution. Any reason for not doing it ? I mean,
the URW fonts are free and come bundled with several distros, I think it
would be reasonable to list it as a requirement.
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correctly.
Does anybody know if installing the URW fonts fixes the problem ? If yes,
than it could be a requirement for the JDk and it just could be mentioned in
the README.
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nprise JKD has been tested with glibc 2.1.1.
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On Mon, Dec 20, 1999 at 05:55:52PM -0800, noisebrain wrote:
>
> Aren't we forgetting something in this discussion?
>
> Average PC has 64M, you want to write an application that runs
> on this PC, your dev environment (JBuilder or whatever)
> has, in addition to the application, a compiler, the I
applications written with JDK 1.1.x+JFC while apps written with 1.2.2
seem to be ok.
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s because we had to deal with Java code (designer,palette,
compiler and others) interfacing Delphi code (editor, IDE menu
etc). With Foundation we don't have to have the JVM and the Delphi RTL
in memory at the same time, one single heap is better.
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On Fri, Dec 17, 1999 at 02:34:27PM -0800, Nathan Meyers wrote:
> Java is a memory hog... it's not JBuilder, it's Java. I've found that
> my system was pretty much useless for any Java work at 64M. When Linux
> JDKs catch up with some of the improvements now being enjoyed in other
> environments (l
mmed as much it was possible without
sacrifying functionality. Java 2 1.3 is expected to sensibly reduce the
memory footprint.
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. The performance when using swapping might be
quite bad. You can probably run the IDE in 64Mb but for heavier tasks, like
running or debugging your app in the IDE you need 128. JDK 1.3 is supposed
to have a sensible optimization of memory but I doubt it will make a huge
diffe
ns
> > ok except for a few little annoyances. [...]
>
> Is there a downloadable version of JBuilder 3 for Linux? Can one get
> it for free?
The answer to both questions is : yes => http://www.borland.com/jbuilde
Java. Just write a script or
makefile to call the compiler with the correct amount of memory. If you're
using Java 2 you might want to take a look at JBuilder for Linux (free
download at http://www.borland.com/jbuilder). It includes a compiler with
automatic dependency checker and it's muc
#x27;t kill it, Microsoft did :)
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On Sat, Dec 11, 1999 at 02:03:16PM -0700, Jeff Galyan wrote:
[deletia]
> Just my two cents.
Superbly exposed, Jeff.
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ficially appointed by Sun as the official porter. For a
lot of companies this is more than enough.
As I said many times before, we turned to the JDK to fix a specific need. We
knew that JDK 1.3 was going to be ported by Sun but w
you weren't part of the linux community. My raising issue
> with you means that you're a peer in this community. If I felt
> otherwise I would let you know directly.
>
> Would appreciate it if you would consider addressing my main point,
> which is that fracturin
bad". I don't think so, let us contribute to this community, we are
doing our best and you'll judge if it's worth your attention and money
or not. In the case of JBuilder Foundation, as you ca see, we are
giving it away for free.
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1.2 patches, in
parallel. Witness is the different path taken in supporting some
features : we tried the native threads approach and left it behind
because the need for updated version of glibc. Other decisions where
made in similar fashion.
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On Wed, Dec 08, 1999 at 07:14:11PM +0100, Juergen Kreileder wrote:
> >>>>> Paolo Ciccone writes:
>
> Paolo> On Wed, Dec 08, 1999 at 08:55:25AM +0100, Jan Buchmann wrote:
> >> What I don't understand is: Why didn't Inprise ever contact o
ownload from our website for quite a while
(http://www.borland.com). The version that is included in our JDK is
basically the same with some fixes we have done in the last couple of
months.
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On Wed, Dec 08, 1999 at 06:54:44PM +0100, Jan Buchmann wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 08, 1999 at 08:29:04AM -0800, Paolo Ciccone wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 08, 1999 at 08:55:25AM +0100, Jan Buchmann wrote:
> >
> > > What I don't understand is: Why didn't Inprise ever
ou want.
At present time there are no plans to port the JIT to other architectures
than Intel.
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On Tue, Dec 07, 1999 at 09:28:45PM -0800, Nathan Meyers wrote:
> The drama never ceases. This is not a business for the faint of heart
> :-).
Not ideed :) Great post Nathan.
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even acknowledged in the press
> release. Can you understand why people are a bit annoyed?
I can understand it and I have been in the chorus with all the others
screaming and being ridiculized because of that. It's the story of my life,
some of us are just born wired to swim upstream :)
My c
> price.
Why there should be money involved ? We've been licensing JDK from
version 1.0. The port was done using the publicly available patches
posted by Blackdown and the source of the Solaris JDK we get for being
licensees.
n and JPDA didn't work at all. The mailing list was actually
not reporting anything about the on going 1.2.2 Blackdown port, we
were surprised like anybody else when we saw your RC1. From the point
of applying the patches to the final release, this has been a parallel
effort.
Juergen, I
leases of the JDK will be ported to Linux together with the
other two main versions: Windows and Solaris. This is a big
improvement and is another key factor in evaluating Linux as a viable
platform. The MacOS still today has no Java 2 support, for what I
know.
Trying
at the same time. Other problems were addressed by Sun for the
AWT/Motif side. We also did a lot of testing for International
support.
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in time we would gladly have saved the time :)
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standard 1.3 code. At the same time IBM announced their porting
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On Tue, Dec 07, 1999 at 04:39:07PM -0500, Derek Glidden wrote:
> Paolo Ciccone wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 07, 1999 at 03:47:23PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > I though the current 1.2.2 rc was 3, not 1? Have Sun picked up an older copy
> > > to releas
t; I'm downloading it anyway to see if it works on 2.2.13...
It works with 2.2.x, don't worry. I tested on Mandrake 6.1. I believe
the 2.2.5 is just because we didn't test it with anything older than
RedHat 6.0.
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On Tue, Dec 07, 1999 at 12:31:28PM -0500, Scott Murray wrote:
> Without native threads support, this release is IMO useless for running
> any kind of serious Java applications on Linux.
I disagree, we have a couple of very big applications running under this
JDK, including JBuilder, and the perfo
On Tue, Dec 07, 1999 at 06:15:14PM +0100, Robb Shecter wrote:
> Paolo Ciccone wrote:
>
> > ... this version
> > includes JPDA and several Swing bugs that we found ...
>
> Do you mean "bug fixes?"
Yeah, I still have to
On Tue, Dec 07, 1999 at 03:47:23PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I though the current 1.2.2 rc was 3, not 1? Have Sun picked up an older copy
> to release on their site?
The Sun/Inprise port is not the same of Blackdown's, that's why the release
number is different. The Sun/Inprise port is a
is available...
Besides extensive testing (full JCK) and performace tuning, this version
includes JPDA and several Swing bugs that we found while developing JBuilder
Solaris edition.
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>
> On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, Paolo Ciccone wrote:
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> > On Thu, Dec 02, 1999 at 02:09:30PM -0500, Joseph Shraibman wrote:
> > > Paolo Ciccone wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > The
On Thu, Dec 02, 1999 at 02:09:30PM -0500, Joseph Shraibman wrote:
> Paolo Ciccone wrote:
>
>
> The main problem I had with Jbuiler (enterprise 3 demo for windows) was that it
> wouldn't let me specify a classpath to use in compiling so I could not compile my
> program (
On Thu, Dec 02, 1999 at 10:11:06AM -0800, Paolo Ciccone wrote:
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> When we switched to 10% Java code we actually reduced the memory footprint.
Of course this was "...100% java code..." :)
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On Thu, Dec 02, 1999 at 08:56:07AM -0600, Greg Tomalesky wrote:
> Hi Paolo:
>
> That Solaris edition must be way newer than the demo CD I have:
Yes it is, we actually officially announced it few days ago. PrimeTime, the
code name for the Solaris edition, is a new codebase for JBuilder. The f
> 1) It's a seriously heavy program; it needs around 128 - 256 MB ram for the
> IDE to run smoothly.
> 2) It's still quite unstable (version 2 was hopeless), unless you keep
> strictly to the non-Visual parts of the IDE.
When we switched to 10% Java code we actually reduced the memory footprin
suggestion
about JBuilder or other Borland products please send us feedback, we have
set up a community website just for this, see http://community.borland.com
or http://www.borland.com
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On Tue, Nov 30, 1999 at 02:45:52PM -, John Louis wrote:
> Hi,
> I try to run the SimpleExample, it give me these error:
>
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.InternalError: Can't connect to X11 window
> server using ':0.0' as the value of the Display variable.
> at sun.awt.X11Graph
On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 06:08:54PM +0100, Kontorotsui wrote:
>
> Suppose I want to do a tool that parses the java code and modifies it.
>
> What do you advice me to use? Are there java parsers for Linux?
> If the answer is negative, what can I use? Perl (*groan*)?
Take a look at ANTLR (http:/
On Tue, Nov 09, 1999 at 11:42:44PM -0200, Luis Claudio Santos wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Can anybody HELP ME, PLEASE :-( ?
>
> I'm using Linux RH 5.2 and JDK1.1.7.
> I download the Visibroker for Java 3.4 (linux version) from
>http://www.inprise.com/downloads/.
> After I followed
On Mon, Oct 18, 1999 at 03:41:05AM -0600, Robert Simmons wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> Is there a functional version of the JIT that works with the 1.2 Jdk on
> linux ? I would love to install it before things get messy in my app. Ive
> build most of the structure and now Im adding content like crazy a
re of temp files created byt the VM.
> Q5: Is there any JRE for Linux like the one for NT?
Yes. Just download the JRE archive.
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On Fri, Oct 15, 1999 at 03:57:50PM -0600, Yohans Mendoza wrote:
> hi all, I was under the impression that the escape character in java was
> \.
> is that correct?
It depends. If your talking about string literals your correct. If you need
to escape some characters in strings used for MessageForma
to know more
details about icomaptibilities or bugs. After all that's the purpose
of beta testing :)
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On Thu, Oct 07, 1999 at 11:18:43PM +0100, Rachel Greenham wrote:
> Paolo Ciccone wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 07, 1999 at 10:49:58AM -0700, Dan Iuster wrote:
> > > RedHat has just released the 6.1 version of Linux. I am curious if
> > > anyone has had any experi
On Thu, Oct 07, 1999 at 10:49:58AM -0700, Dan Iuster wrote:
> RedHat has just released the 6.1 version of Linux. I am curious if
> anyone has had any experience with the 1.1.7, 1.1.8 or 1.2 JDK and JRE
> on RedHat 6.1. I have some rather large applications to port, and I
> would like to know if
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 11:18:13AM -0400, Jacob Nikom wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am interested in this discussion, but I am trying to convert it
> into more plain English. I always thought that the lightweight
> components are peerless.
Swing still needs some heaviweight componentes, namely the AWT F
On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 04:30:33PM -0500, Burkhart,Kelly wrote:
>
>
> What performance does a JIT improve? Are you talking about the time to run
> an uncompiled application with this JIT vs. another JIT (i.e. performance
> improvement is in the JIT compilation not in running the application)?
to discuss bugs, so if you
find any please post how to reproduce them.
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> "AC" == Kontorotsui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
AC> Hello, so far I worked using the good old xemacs + Makefile
AC> combo. As soon as my application grow and more classes are
AC> created, I'm beginning to feel the weight of a full scale
AC> compilation (like 20 seconds now
> "GP" == Guillermo Payet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
GP> Hello,
GP> Can someone recommend a Java Development environment for
GP> Linux? That is: an IDE to develop Java code, not necessarily
GP> written in Java.
I know that this is a shameless plug but we just finished show
> "SM" == Scott Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
SM> Well, if the user buys Solaris 7 or installs one of SunSoft's
SM> Production VM packages on a 2.5.1 - 7 box, then /usr/java
SM> contains the JDK (as a link to /usr/java1.1), and
SM> /usr/bin/java is a link to the "official
> "NM" == Nelson Minar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
NM> Has anyone worked up a filesystem standard for the JDK on
NM> linux? I've seen it installed all over the place on different
NM> Linux systems. Maybe we can come up with a standard place to
NM> put everything and make the w
> "RR" == Ron Resnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
RR> You wouldn't happen to know if JBuilder on Linux might also
RR> mean an imminent release of Oracle JDeveloper on Linux, which
RR> is itself heavily based on JBuilder?
Sorry, I have no idea what Oracle will do.
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> "OPD" == Osvaldo Pinali Doederlein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
OPD> Wow! This rocks. And will probably force the competition to
OPD> go Linux too. As a partner of Inprise, I hope they're fast
OPD> :)
We're faster :), after annoucing the product several weeks ago we
demoed JB
> "OPD" == Osvaldo Pinali Doederlein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
OPD> That's great! I did see the announcements but I though the
OPD> code was still in the distant future, as I didn't see a
OPD> public splash of it. So, is 'vi' doomed now on Linux? :)
Well, we just didn't to t
I have a very big Java app with extensive UI and it works fine, must
be something in your configuration.
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> "SM" == Samuel McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
SM> Just downloaded and installed pre-v2. When I recompile old
SM> java code and run it, however, my menu bar is all
Steve,
I just wanted to say that you guys are doing and awesome work.
The new JDk is visibly faster and better.
Thank you a lot.
--Paolo
> "SB" == Steve Byrne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
SB> We're trying to get the 2.1 build done tonight. Stay tuned...
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I disagree, given the nature of the announcement I found thjis
extremely interesting. The post was short, to the point and about a
free software. Given the interest expressed in the past by several
people about Java and 3D I think this was appropriate.
Regards,
--Paolo
> "GS" == Gunnar Stah
Thank for this fix it worked beatifully.
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I don't think this support works for classes store in a Jar file, does
it ?
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> "JM" == Jani Mikkonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
JM> Linux kernel has support of "Misc executables" and Java
JM> executables. With both of these options you can execute class
JM> files strain
Well, look at javac, it's a so called "self-executable" and it's
basically Java. You can take a look at the code downloading the
Solaris JDK. It's basically a C program that parses the command-line,
starts the JVM and passes to it a given class to run.
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> "RK" == Riyad Kalla <[EMAIL
> "PC" == Piero Campanelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
PC> ok..ok this means that it is unstable and it isn't
PC> usableis it? In other words i am really astonished about
PC> fact that under Redhat 6 i haven't any way to develop in Java:
That shouldn't a surprise since RH 6.
They are probably talking about HotSpot.
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> "Riyad" == Riyad Kalla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Riyad> [1 ] The following is complete
Riyad> here say, but none the less interesting:
Riyad> A professor of a friend of mine went to a SAP Training
Riyad> conference and cam
> "CA" == Chris Abbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
CA> Sun positioned Java as a language not bound to any realworld
CA> platform; and hence as being multiplatform capable.
In the case of Java looking at the technical specs is going to be
restrictive. Sun, positioned Java, from a techn
>>>>> "BK" == Bernd Kreimeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
BK> Paolo Ciccone writes:
>> I'm personally disappointed by Sun's reaction.
BK> While I enjoy Sun bashing as much as anybody (in my case, I
BK> have the 7+ years of
I'm personally disappointed by Sun's reaction. In November they
announced support for Linux, for the following months we got nothing
from them and nothing when the pre v1 has been released. Linux is not
even in the list of officially supported platforms, despite what they
announced, and there's no
> "TB" == Tucker Balch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
TB> Is java-linux for kernel developers (100s of people) or the
TB> linux masses (millions)? I suppose Debian includes it, but
TB> RedHat 5.2 does not include bzip2, nor bzip2 capable tar.
Sorry to contradict you but bzip2 is an
> "Louis-David" == Louis-David Mitterrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Louis-David> Has anyone else noticed the fonts (or lack thereof)
Louis-David> in Linux-jdk1.2? Everything seems to be in "lucida"
Louis-David> or is it just me? I've tried using the
Where did you get the jdk ?
> "FBB" == Frank B Brokken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
FBB> Dear Java-list members, I'm looking for parser and scanner
FBB> generators that produce Java sourcefiles, comparable to bison
FBB> and flex. I once had a reference for a parser generator
FBB> producing java sources, b
> "GG" == Gerald Gutierrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
GG> Unfortunately those, such as yourself, who understand and care
GG> about what's involved only constitute the minority .. the
GG> "java-elite". I know many programming gurus at Motorola where
GG> I work that can't care
> "GG" == Gerald Gutierrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
GG> Then the web page is only providing most potential users with
GG> a table full of colors and very little information for which
GG> they then look on the mailing list.
I disagree, having that page with the table that shows
> "GG" == Gerald Gutierrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
GG> I'm starting to get the feeling that many in this group are
GG> approaching "when will 1.2 be out" messages with a very
GG> disheartening attitude that will surely turn potential users
GG> off.
GG> They ask becaus
> "SB" == Steve Byrne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
SB> I'll do something that I'm going to no doubt regret in the
SB> fullness of time: disclose my plans ahead of time.
That's great, thanks.
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> "AG" == Aaron Gaudio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
AG> It was my understanding that Java source code is only
AG> guaranteed to work if it's ASCII, but I may be wrong about
AG> that.
No, you're right but the example give *is* ASCII. The spec refers to
the encoding of the source, n
> "AP" == Alex Pozgaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
AP> I just tried it out on Solaris (SunOS 5.6), both with jdk1.2
AP> and with jdk1.1.5.
AP> Under 1.2 it worked. Under 1.1.5, I got the same error message
AP> as you did.
AP> Oh, and something more: why in a wolrd would s
> "CARZ" == Carlos Alberto Roman Zamitiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
CARZ> I wrote a project on JBuilder2.0 (windows), but my web
CARZ> server is a linux box. I put my *class, *html in my web
CARZ> server. I used some jbuilder's classes (GridView,
CARZ> GridControl, and more)
Kevin,
thanks you all for your effort and for letting us know.
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> "MD" == Moses DeJong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
MD> I agree. It is ugly. I would not want to use it myself. Still,
MD> you should have the right to use it if you want to. Microsoft
MD> should not be able to tell you how to run your software.
Yes, it should not but their goal i
ervlet,Javabean support.
- OpenTools architecture to extend the IDE with add-ins.
- Extensive on-line help.
- Available for Solaris now, Linux very soon.
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> "AB" == Artur Biesiadowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
AB> Is there any compiler-compiler available for java that takes
AB> bison-like grammar as input ? I don't think only about same
AB> type of grammar, but exactly same definitions (of course
AB> without action bodies).
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