[The Java Posse] Re: JavaFX 1.2 books ?

2009-06-18 Thread Stephen Chin
Jan, The Pro JavaFX book was written with both academic and corporate adoption in mind in terms of both the structure and content. During the writing process we had the benefit of early feedback from Dr. Jan Stelovsky of the University of Hawaii, who intends to use it as the textbook for his

[The Java Posse] Re: JavaFX 1.2 books ?

2009-06-18 Thread Joshua Marinacci
Yes it is. The authors of the book we given early access to javafx so that the could keep th book up to date as javafx 1.2 was finished. It is a good book. - Josh, on the go On Jun 18, 2009, at 11:05 PM, Jan Goyvaerts wrote: > I'm searching for a book to give to students of a JavaFX cours

[The Java Posse] Re: JavaFX 1.2 books ?

2009-06-18 Thread Jan Goyvaerts
I'm searching for a book to give to students of a JavaFX course I'm giving. I'd rather give them one really covering 1.2 instead of "being compliant" with 1.2. So, is this book covering 1.2 ? On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Joshua Marinacci wrote: > why, that's crazy talk! :) > > On Jun 18, 20

[The Java Posse] Re: JavaFX 1.2 books ?

2009-06-18 Thread Joshua Marinacci
why, that's crazy talk! :) On Jun 18, 2009, at 10:30 PM, Jan Goyvaerts wrote: > Really ? The storage, new controls and all 1.2 new features ? The > authors would now upfront what was coming ! :-) > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 7:21 AM, jespdj wrote: > > I bought "JavaFX: Developing Rich Internet A

[The Java Posse] Re: JavaFX 1.2 books ?

2009-06-18 Thread Jan Goyvaerts
Really ? The storage, new controls and all 1.2 new features ? The authors would now upfront what was coming ! :-) On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 7:21 AM, jespdj wrote: > > I bought "JavaFX: Developing Rich Internet Applications" by Clarke, > Connors and Bruno at JavaOne, it covers JavaFX 1.2. > > http:

[The Java Posse] Re: JavaFX 1.2 books ?

2009-06-18 Thread jespdj
I bought "JavaFX: Developing Rich Internet Applications" by Clarke, Connors and Bruno at JavaOne, it covers JavaFX 1.2. http://www.amazon.com/JavaFX-Developing-Rich-Internet-Applications/dp/013701287X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1245388810&sr=8-1 Jesper On 14 jun, 14:20, Jan Goyvaerts wrote:

[The Java Posse] Charles Nutter talks about JRuby at CommunityOne

2009-06-18 Thread bigbenny3
I've uploaded Charlie Nutter's CommunityOne talk on JRuby and the JVM on YouTube. He provides insights into getting Ruby to work on the JVM. Part 1 of 5.1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQh-LDArq7g Part 2 of 5.1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTKpEfKJDjc Part 3 of 5.1http://www.youtube.

[The Java Posse] Re: Package by feature or layer?

2009-06-18 Thread TorNorbye
I'm always happy to share NetBeans tips :) Somebody encouraged me to write a blog series on it a while ago, I think I might just do that since I can't really cover my daytime work in my blog these days... Another cool thing about our Open Type and Open Symbol implementations is that they work cr

[The Java Posse] Re: Package by feature or layer?

2009-06-18 Thread TorNorbye
I can imagine an area where it would be useful is if you have some kind of data file, such as obfuscated JavaScript, or JSON data, and you want to view it. For some languages we have better ways to handle it. For both of these scenarios (and XML etc), just hit Format (ctrl-shift-f). We will prett

[The Java Posse] Re: Package by feature or layer?

2009-06-18 Thread Christian Beil
Thanks Tor for pointing out Ctrl-Shift-Cmd-O, didn't know of that one. I didn't even think of this feature. I use Eclipse most of the time, and I don't think Eclipse has this feature. I only know of Open Type (Ctrl-Shift-T) and Open Resource (Ctrl-Shift-R). --~--~-~--~~~--

[The Java Posse] Re: Package by feature or layer?

2009-06-18 Thread Joshua Marinacci
maybe the were entering a one-line-coding-contest? i used to type those as a kid in the back of Nibble and Byte magazine (in apple soft basic with a ton of semicolons :) On Jun 18, 2009, at 5:49 PM, Augusto wrote: > > I like this comment from the bug report; > > "This feature is necessary, fo

[The Java Posse] Re: Package by feature or layer?

2009-06-18 Thread Peter Becker
I feel similar. NetBeans is quite nice in many regards, but generally lacking in terms of code hygiene. Between NetBeans not even auto-formatting generated code and Eclipse fixing dozens of things as "Save Actions" a lot is still to be done. Let me elaborate. The premise is that I'm a bloody l

[The Java Posse] Re: Package by feature or layer?

2009-06-18 Thread Augusto
I like this comment from the bug report; "This feature is necessary, for simple usability because is impossible read a line code with thousands columns." A line of code should never have "thousands of columns". On Jun 18, 7:49 pm, TorNorbye wrote: > On Jun 18, 4:26 pm, TorNorbye wrote: > > >

[The Java Posse] Re: java store blog

2009-06-18 Thread Joshua Marinacci
Indeed. In fact, we expect games to be the first big sellers. One of our launch titles is a 3D swords and sorcery game called Runescape. On Jun 17, 2009, at 12:08 PM, Augusto wrote: > > Looks good, I think a neat feature is that you guys are autogenerating > the JNLP and for games are includ

[The Java Posse] Re: 'Posse BoF 2009 -- the video

2009-06-18 Thread Joshua Marinacci
one word: modules On Jun 17, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Robert Casto wrote: > There are plenty of date pickers available for download. Why should > one be bundled with the JVM and make it even larger? > > These guys should work on the language. If we want Swing to be > updated, perhaps it should be d

[The Java Posse] Re: 'Posse BoF 2009 -- the video

2009-06-18 Thread Joshua Marinacci
yep. those are all on the list. On Jun 17, 2009, at 10:03 AM, Augusto wrote: > > This language feature should be at the bottom of your list. I rather > get closures than this. > > But you guys are better off spending time finishing the more important > bits of JavaFX; > * Tooling > * Components (

[The Java Posse] Re: Package by feature or layer?

2009-06-18 Thread TorNorbye
On Jun 18, 4:26 pm, TorNorbye wrote: > On Jun 18, 11:18 am, Erlend Hamnaberg wrote: > > > Don't get me started on the deficiency of Netbeans. This feature is a must > > and has been in all others IDEs forever. > > Maybe it's been in "all other IDEs forever", but I just fired up > Eclipse 3.4 and

[The Java Posse] Re: Package by feature or layer?

2009-06-18 Thread TorNorbye
Yeah, NetBeans should add soft word wrapping. Eclipse doesn't have it either (except for a third party plugin, currently at version 0.0.2, which doesn't work with some languages and apparently breaks line numbering) - but people coming to NetBeans from for example TextMate certainly miss this fea

[The Java Posse] Re: Package by feature or layer?

2009-06-18 Thread TorNorbye
On Jun 18, 11:18 am, Erlend Hamnaberg wrote: > Don't get me started on the deficiency of Netbeans. This feature is a must > and has been in all others IDEs forever. Maybe it's been in "all other IDEs forever", but I just fired up Eclipse 3.4 and I can't find it. I'm sure it's there but I'm too

[The Java Posse] Re: Package by feature or layer?

2009-06-18 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
Casper Bang wrote: > Sure, but it really would be faster to just guide you to the top 4'th > voted item on the issue tracker: > http://www.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=89894 > Thanks. -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - "We make Java work. Everywher

[The Java Posse] Re: Package by feature or layer?

2009-06-18 Thread Casper Bang
Sure, but it really would be faster to just guide you to the top 4'th voted item on the issue tracker: http://www.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=89894 As I write somewhere among the comments, EditPlus is a good example of the feature: http://www.editplus.com/ss/editplus.gif /Casper On 18 J

[The Java Posse] Re: Package by feature or layer?

2009-06-18 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
Casper Bang wrote: > Yes NetBeans HAS come a very long way but it's true its not there yet. > For me, one of the few really big things missing now is line wrapping. > Can you elaborate? -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - "We make Java work. Everywhere."

[The Java Posse] Re: Java FX Studio beta available?

2009-06-18 Thread Joshua Marinacci
have you tried the current production suite? it does this already today. you just don't get the nice visual assembler. you can take photoshop graphics and directly export them to fx, add some code, make changes in photoshop, recompile and it works without any code changes. On Jun 18, 2009,

[The Java Posse] Re: Package by feature or layer?

2009-06-18 Thread Casper Bang
Yes NetBeans HAS come a very long way but it's true its not there yet. For me, one of the few really big things missing now is line wrapping. I see people requesting this on the bug tracker almost every single day. /Casper On 18 Jun., 20:48, Ryan Waterer wrote: > Erlend, > > Netbeans has come a

[The Java Posse] Re: Java FX Studio beta available?

2009-06-18 Thread Bill Robertson
The Adobe plug-ins allow the designer's Photoshop and/or Illustrator work to be artifacts that you consume in the development process of a JavaFX application. So there is no translation process of what it looks like in photoshop to JavaFx. This can be a huge time saver, especially when there are

[The Java Posse] Re: Package by feature or layer?

2009-06-18 Thread Bill Robertson
On Jun 18, 2:18 pm, Erlend Hamnaberg wrote: > I really like Netbeans. But until you get REAL editor support for JAVA, I > can't use it. Can't read your mind, so what do you feel is missing? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed

[The Java Posse] Re: Package by feature or layer?

2009-06-18 Thread Ryan Waterer
Erlend, Netbeans has come a very long way in the last couple of years. Since Tor has been talking about NetBeans, and the other Posse members have commented how fantastic it is, I decided to look into it again back in March. I now develop exclusively using Netbeans at home, and have started the

[The Java Posse] Re: Java FX Studio beta available?

2009-06-18 Thread Joshua Marinacci
if you want to develop in javafx go to javafx.com and download the sdk. that's all you need. the designer tool is a tool for designers. Our main target is for content assemblers. People who take content from photoshop, illustrator, video editing tools, etc. and combine them into a single a

[The Java Posse] Re: Java FX Studio beta available?

2009-06-18 Thread Erlend Hamnaberg
I am still a person that don't "get" JavaFX yet. Why do I want to care that you have any features in Photoshop? I work with designers, and their designs are ALWAYS a guideline. No designer has the final word about what works technically anyway, so why do I care? A usability expert might, but that

[The Java Posse] Re: Package by feature or layer?

2009-06-18 Thread Erlend Hamnaberg
Don't get me started on the deficiency of Netbeans. This feature is a must and has been in all others IDEs forever. Why the hell isn't JAVA a language that needs attention in Netbeans? Since this is written in Java, why isn't this the main language supported Java is the LEAST developed language of

[The Java Posse] Re: Java FX Studio beta available?

2009-06-18 Thread Rob Wilson - BabyDuke JUG
So is the intention to install that for all the graphic manipulations and then export as necessary, then switch to Netbeans with the JavaFX plugin to do the coding? Will the Java FX Studio be instead of photoshop, or complementary? I'm not sure I understand what I would need to develop in JavaFX

[The Java Posse] Re: Package by feature or layer?

2009-06-18 Thread TorNorbye
Regarding "IDEs can only help to search for a class if I know its name.": As of NetBeans 6.5 you can search for symbols too (Navigate > Go To Symbol -- Ctrl-Shift-Cmd-O), not just classes - I use that sometimes when I can't remember the class name. If I remember the method, or field, I'm after I

[The Java Posse] Re: Package by feature or layer?

2009-06-18 Thread Christian Beil
I would also like the Posse to discuss this topic on the podcast. I already posted a question (#21) on the Google Moderator for listener feedback. You can vote on the question. Perhaps someone wants to rewrite the question. I find it quite hard to find out what makes a feature; it's not always ar

[The Java Posse] Re: Continue with the interview, they are GREAT!

2009-06-18 Thread Augusto
Well in the meantime you can have a preview of such debate (between Eric Newcomer and Alex Buckley) in this thread; http://modualrit.blogspot.com/2009/06/osgi-standard-questions.html On Jun 18, 8:15 am, Augusto wrote: > That sounds like a great idea :-) > > On Jun 18, 7:55 am, Mohamed Bana wrot

[The Java Posse] Re: Continue with the interview, they are GREAT!

2009-06-18 Thread Augusto
That sounds like a great idea :-) On Jun 18, 7:55 am, Mohamed Bana wrote: > why not have a debate?  e.g., two people from osgi and jigsaw. > > 2009/6/17 Paulo Siqueira > > > > >> I like lots of content, too, but would much prefer two 45 minute > >> podcasts to one 90 minite one. > > > I agree,

[The Java Posse] Re: Continue with the interview, they are GREAT!

2009-06-18 Thread Mohamed Bana
why not have a debate? e.g., two people from osgi and jigsaw. 2009/6/17 Paulo Siqueira > > > >> I like lots of content, too, but would much prefer two 45 minute >> podcasts to one 90 minite one. > > > I agree, it's easier to keep the listening up-to-date this way =) > > []s, > > -- > Paulo Rena