(anyone who mentions they use tabs, please line up against the back wall)
Bah if everyone just used a tab to signify a logical indentation
level, your whole question becomes pointless - think about it for a
second. Indentation should be about expressing semantics on screen,
not act as a space
On May 17, 7:59 pm, Fabrizio Giudici fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it
wrote:
I was surprised to read some comments about the NVidia CEO interview in
which he asserts that Android tables are not selling well because of
their costs.
They probably just have too much Tegra silicon on stock. NVidea
Gotta say, there's some truth to what Andrew says! Seems like there
is only Java got replaced by there is only Scala, and that's the
same scary simplemindedness I've always struggled with within the
hardcore Java space.
On May 18, 2:51 am, Andrew am2...@gmail.com wrote:
The thing is I don't have
Scala's a red herring here, it just so happens that I observed the issue on
the Scala pages, nothing more.
I was actually calling into question the methodology of that site. If
anything, this is pro-Java. Given the observed tendency to mis categorise
tweets as hating a language, perhaps this is
On May 18, 8:19 am, Kevin Wright kev.lee.wri...@gmail.com wrote:
At the end of the day, a pro-Scala attitude is also pro-Java. A fact which
is all too easily forgotten.
Is it? I had the impression that, for Scala to succeed, it has to
replace Java - particularly in the enterprise.
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I think The Posse have made it clear that they consider Java to mean the
entire platform and ecosystem, including even Android. Given that, isn't
discussion of Scala, Groovy, Clojure, et al, also on-topic for this group?
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On 18 May 2011 08:26, Vince O'Sullivan vjosulli...@gmail.com wrote:
On May 18, 8:19 am, Kevin Wright kev.lee.wri...@gmail.com wrote:
At the end of the day, a pro-Scala attitude is also pro-Java. A fact
which
is all too easily forgotten.
Is it? I had the impression that, for Scala to
At the risk of causing some whitespace holy war, I would actually secont
that sentiment.
I am actually rather surprised at the level of dislike for a tab character
among this crowd, because this tab character fits really well into the
semantics of nesting/indentation. You can express a level
The problem is that if you, accidentally or otherwise, end up with a mixture
of tabs and spaces for indentation, people with different tab sizes set see
your code as spaghetti.
It's easier to write a rule that detects and rejects tabs than it is to
detect a bad mixture of tabs and spaces. In the
It's easier to write a rule that detects and rejects tabs than it is to
detect a bad mixture of tabs and spaces. In the latter, what would happen
with:
tab int[] x = {1, 2, 3, 4, 5,
tab 6, 7, 8, 9, 10};
I would argue, that space characters has no place after a linebreak.
They
I was surprised to read some comments about the NVidia CEO interview in
which he asserts that Android tables are not selling well because of
their costs. He says that low-level product configuration should be WiFi
only to reduce costs.
That's a red herring to start with. The per-device cost
Then you end up with, say:
tab int[] x = {
tab tab 1, 2, 3, 4, 5,
tab tab 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
};
which you can probably see promotes the structure of the code over its
actual content. I used to think the same, but spending a while in a locked
room with lisp cured me.
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On May 18, 7:56 am, Casper Bang casper.b...@gmail.com wrote:
(anyone who mentions they use tabs, please line up against the back wall)
Bah if everyone just used a tab to signify a logical indentation
level, your whole question becomes pointless - think about it for a
second. Indentation
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Vince O'Sullivan vjosulli...@gmail.com wrote:
On May 18, 7:56 am, Casper Bang casper.b...@gmail.com wrote:
(anyone who mentions they use tabs, please line up against the back wall)
Bah if everyone just used a tab to signify a logical indentation
level, your
On May 18, 5:45 am, Roland Tepp luol...@gmail.com wrote:
At the risk of causing some whitespace holy war, I would actually secont
that sentiment.
Also - if everyone used tab for indentation, it would open up elastic
tabstops http://nickgravgaard.com/elastictabstops/ and opening up.
Also, to
The rule is easy.
(A) A tab character may only appear in cases where it is prefixed by one of
these three notions: Start-of-file, another tab, or a new line. Anywhere
else: Flag it.
(B) Spaces may not be prefixed by tabs or new lines or start-of-file
(optional: unless they follow a number of
Your optional rule doesn't sound like something you can easily implement
for, e.g., a commit hook. Can you specify that rule in your IDE?
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On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Reinier Zwitserloot reini...@gmail.comwrote:
The
if you really must line up
things in tables in code. Usually I just say: Write a text file and read it
in in a static block instead, if that's what you need).
Totally agree. Spending time on being a whitespace artist should be
avoided, especially if it mangles semantic vs. logical scope.
So what happens if you accept someone else's code, who was using the wrong
number of spaces for indent and mix it with your code?
Alexey
From: Ricky Clarkson ricky.clark...@gmail.com
To: javaposse@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, May 18, 2011 6:44:06 AM
Subject:
The more I think about it, the more I like it. Given ODF standards, we should
be able to whip something out with XSLT fairly easily. As a proof of concept,
it could start as a generic preprocessor that gets fed different XSL files for
different underlying compilers.
Alexey
It'll get reformatted.
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On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Alexey Zinger inline_f...@yahoo.comwrote:
So what happens if you accept someone else's code, who was using the
wrong number of spaces for indent and mix it with your
Then there's no problem with tabs either.
Alexey
From: Ricky Clarkson ricky.clark...@gmail.com
To: javaposse@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, May 18, 2011 12:13:09 PM
Subject: Re: [The Java Posse] Vs: Re: How many characters do you use for
indention?
It'll get
It's easier to screw up formatting when incorporating code that uses tabs,
because you might not realise it uses tabs. Only the person who uses a
different tab size to your editor might realise.
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On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 1:26
So you're saying the problem with tabs is that you might get a document that
only looks right, but in reality it's using tabs, so that's the problem with
tabs? Did I miss something?
If you're gonna reformat a document using a syntax-aware editor, reformatting
tabs to spaces is actually easier
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 15:03, Eric Jablow erjab...@gmail.com wrote:
On May 18, 5:45 am, Roland Tepp luol...@gmail.com wrote:
At the risk of causing some whitespace holy war, I would actually secont
that sentiment.
Also - if everyone used tab for indentation, it would open up elastic
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 4:29 AM, Phil p...@surfsoftconsulting.com wrote:
will be a significant factor. The fact that Asus have chosen to price
lower, and are selling out everything they can ship, lends some weight
Agreed, also Asus has been very active in buying market share across
multiple
On May 17, 2:54 pm, Chris Koerner chessm...@gmail.com wrote:
(anyone who mentions they use tabs, please line up against the back wall)
I can't speak specifically about your motivation, but I've talked to a
number of no tabs zealots who are also big proponents of CSS, and
advocate anyone who
The problem's not with tabs. A tab is a perfectly straightforward thing.
The problem, like with null pointers, untyped languages, fast cars,
Eclipse, etc., is with the operators.
But yes, if you commit something that mixes tabs and spaces because you did
a copy and paste job from some code you
On May 18, 1:29 pm, Phil p...@surfsoftconsulting.com wrote:
That's a red herring to start with. The per-device cost of adding 3G
to the iPad was estimated at about $15. One extra chip, one extra
aerial and a straightforward certification process.
So what? Price here has more to do with what
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