On Saturday, October 22, 2011 7:46:40 AM UTC-4, Russel wrote:
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> On Sat, 2011-10-22 at 04:32 -0700, opinali wrote:
> [ . . . ]
> > The single serious criticism I've ever heard about j.u.c. and the
> continuing
> > work of JSR-166, is that it furthers the paradigm of shared-memory
> > concurren
Const always crops up, but const doesn't really help except in single-threaded
programs, because all const says is that "I'm not going to modify this".
Whichever other thread that has a non-const reference can still pull the rug
from underneath us.
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On Saturday, October 22, 2011 10:11:21 AM UTC-4, Edward Harned wrote:
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> This article is not about Doug Lea. It is about the application service he
> wrote. Doug Lea is a fine scientist, educator, etc. Application programming
> is not his forte. The majority of code in
You mean that Doug (plus
Of course, you can always use Akka within a Java program.
Yes. Akka was written in Scala, and is arguably best used from Scala (the
language has many constructs that will help you out). But it's not the only
way, the guys have gone to great lengths to ensure that it also provides a
rather nice Jav
I thought it was just me when I didn't even want to bother listening to the
live stream of the event. In many ways Oracle Java is about as interesting
as Microsoft .Net. But it seems along with the event that
the enthusiasm over Java has dropped. I remember the days when Java was
viewed with i
maybe it's just me but I felt more excitement as this years event than in the
previous few.
Regards,
Kirk
On Oct 23, 2011, at 7:31 PM, Chris Koerner wrote:
> I thought it was just me when I didn't even want to bother listening to the
> live stream of the event. In many ways Oracle Java is abou
On Sun, 2011-10-23 at 17:31 +0100, Kevin Wright wrote:
> Of course, you can always use Akka within a Java program.
>
> Yes. Akka was written in Scala, and is arguably best used from Scala (the
> language has many constructs that will help you out). But it's not the only
> way, the guys have gone t
opinali:
Good point about not participating in JSR166. I wasn't aware of just what DL
was doing. From the Brian Goetz article "Stick a fork in it" the framework
was supposed to be for compute only on very large arrays. More of the
scientific/academic stuff. I do business application so I wasn't
Same for me...
Sven
Am 23.10.2011 19:37 schrieb "Kirk" :
> maybe it's just me but I felt more excitement as this years event than in
> the previous few.
>
> Regards,
> Kirk
>
> On Oct 23, 2011, at 7:31 PM, Chris Koerner wrote:
>
> I thought it was just me when I didn't even want to bother listeni
Groovy is still alive?
*shrugs*
:-D
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On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Chris Koerner wrote:
> I remember the days when Java was viewed with incredible excitement and
> everyone couldn't wait to get a chance to work on a project using Java.
I think the excitement is still there but it's morphed.
In the early years, I was excited b
I agree with both sides.
Tech geeks always want to be on the cutting edge / "cool" tech. 10 years
ago, that WAS java... now it's "just" a wildly successful but mature and
more slowly evolving technology.
That being said, JavaOne was WAY better this year with more excitement and I
left feeling Jav
Sure it is
Too many big corps (e.g. Oracle, SpringSource) have thrown to much behind
the lang to allow it to die out simply because mere *developers* don't think
it has much value nowadays.
Nor is it especially Groovy's fault that it got superseded so quickly and
comprehensively. James Strachan
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Kevin Wright wrote:
> Sure it is
>
> Too many big corps (e.g. Oracle, SpringSource) have thrown to much behind
> the lang to allow it to die out simply because mere *developers* don't think
> it has much value nowadays.
>
You make it sound as if the only reason w
Certainly the excitement in Java this year had to be about JVM performance and
JavaFX. JavaFX finally feels real.
Kirk
On Oct 23, 2011, at 9:17 PM, Sean Comerford wrote:
> I agree with both sides.
>
> Tech geeks always want to be on the cutting edge / "cool" tech. 10 years ago,
> that WAS jav
On Oct 23, 2011, at 8:24 PM, Edward Harned wrote:
> opinali:
>
> Good point about not participating in JSR166. I wasn't aware of just what DL
> was doing. From the Brian Goetz article "Stick a fork in it" the framework
> was supposed to be for compute only on very large arrays. More of the
>
2011/10/23 Cédric Beust ♔
>
> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Kevin Wright
> wrote:
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>> Sure it is
>>
>> Too many big corps (e.g. Oracle, SpringSource) have thrown to much behind
>> the lang to allow it to die out simply because mere *developers* don't think
>> it has much value nowadays.
>>
On Sun, 23 Oct 2011 21:16:17 +0200, Cédric Beust ♔
wrote:
I think the excitement is still there but it's morphed.
...
I like a lot of alternative JVM languages, but when you look at the
broader
picture, none of these languages score as high as Java in all these
areas.
+1 (including
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 6:36 AM, Kevin Wright wrote:
> [...snip...] Every single benefit that Groovy originally set out
> to offer over and above Java is now being offered, more so, by *at least*
> one other language.
I think it is accurate to say that most of the features of Groovy
circa 2005 a
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