[The Java Posse] Re: Java builds (maven, ant), the java way is broken!

2008-11-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Nov 24, 9:00 pm, Casper Bang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why the requirement it be interpreted? it makes it difficult to leverage the proejct code. If a build is compiled and it references existing code then the build won't compile until the existing code is compiled. I ran i

[The Java Posse] Java builds (maven, ant), the java way is broken!

2008-11-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[The Java Posse] Re: Influential Java programmers should learn C#

2008-11-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
yes. I've noticed the best/most successful projects are usually a small team of really smart people. Not design by committee. The JCP isn't appropriate for language design. On Nov 22, 11:47 am, gafter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 4, 3:40 pm, Patrick Wright <[E

[The Java Posse] Re: Design Patterns, protection proxy access issues

2008-11-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[The Java Posse] Design Patterns, protection proxy access issues

2008-11-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[The Java Posse] Re: NetBeans... nice!

2008-11-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[The Java Posse] NetBeans... nice!

2008-11-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
a Perforce plug-in for it. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more

[The Java Posse] Re: episode 215: reflection and generics

2008-11-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
, with C# you can do the former as if (myList.GetType().GetGenericArguments()[0] == typeof(String)) { // } and the latter as class Foo { public void Bar() { if (typeof(T) == typeof(String)) { // } } } -Brett On Nov 4, 11:16 pm, "Frederic Simon&q

[The Java Posse] Re: Influential Java programmers should learn C#

2008-11-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
claredProperties(); We would also need a corresponding java.lang.reflect.Property class, or with your suggestion would this mean that java.lang.reflect.Field would be extended to support property specific metadata? -Brett. On Nov 3, 3:51 pm, RogerV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My current pain poi

[The Java Posse] Influential Java programmers should learn C#

2008-11-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[The Java Posse] Re: why is javadoc stuck in 1997?

2008-10-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How about jdocs.com? They have javadoc for several libraries. Search is there, so is modern interface. On Oct 29, 6:02 am, Michael Neale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I (like Tor, I noted) pretty much use google exclusively for that. > Sometimes it confuses me, sometimes I am sans

[The Java Posse] Re: why is javadoc stuck in 1997?

2008-10-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ya, it would have to be done all in local javascript. it's doable tho. On Oct 28, 9:24 am, Joshua Marinacci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As I said in a previous email, search is not there yet but it's a   > feature we are working on. I don't know if it will make

[The Java Posse] Re: why is javadoc stuck in 1997?

2008-10-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[The Java Posse] Re: Recommend a good Profiler?

2008-10-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[The Java Posse] Java 6 Update 10 Out (but it's quiet)

2008-10-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[The Java Posse] Re: Have we given up on the idea of code reuse?

2008-10-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[The Java Posse] Have we given up on the idea of code reuse?

2008-10-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
reuse code? - Does it work? Discuss? Karl --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options

[The Java Posse] Have we given up on the idea of code reuse?

2008-10-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ons project! What I want to know is? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this

[The Java Posse] Episode 209: I Laughed

2008-10-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[The Java Posse] Re: Can't wait for episode w/ Gafter

2008-09-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wow, that news shocked me. Probably means no "Java Puzzlers 2" book. On Sep 26, 8:56 pm, Weiqi Gao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://twitter.com/gafter > > Casper Bang wrote: > > Reference? Gafter did state his disappointments with SUN and their > > lack o

[The Java Posse] Re: For all you search people out there

2008-09-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[The Java Posse] Re: the anti-helper class meme

2008-09-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[The Java Posse] Re: T-Mobile G1 "Google phone"

2008-09-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[The Java Posse] the anti-helper class meme

2008-09-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[The Java Posse] Re: Have you heard of all these Java tools?

2008-09-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
oment! On Sep 22, 7:19 am, RogerV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hudson - CI build tool > PMD/CPD - source code static analysis > FindBugs - byte code static analysis > Coberatura - test coverage analysis > JLint - static analysis that can uncover threading issues > Macker - enf

[The Java Posse] Re: Episode #206 - Libraries, libraries, libraries

2008-09-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
n the past. On Sep 19, 12:27 pm, Casper Bang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There certainly are library catalogs available currently, their > trustworthiness and discoverability is just somewhat questionable. > Among those I turn to are: > > http://www.java-tips.org/java-libr

[The Java Posse] Episode #206 - Libraries, libraries, libraries

2008-09-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[The Java Posse] Re: any comments on this new JCODER Java IDE?

2008-09-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ahhh the irony...a Java development environment that only works on one platform. On Sep 18, 11:26 am, "Viktor Klang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Joshua Marinacci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > out of curiosity, why does your app ne

[The Java Posse] Re: Componentized Designs

2008-09-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Craig, Fair enough...the tooling point is a good one. I can only think of a work-around (maybe an adapter class) to the issue you raise. -Ken On Sep 17, 2:21 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Ken, > > Yes, but as someone pointed out in the c

[The Java Posse] Re: Componentized Designs

2008-09-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
, I am not criticizing Ken for his decision. It's just that, as someone who writes API for a living (and has learned many lessons the hard way), I'm interested in the pros and cons of the approach.. Craig On Sep 17, 8:16 pm, Alexey Zinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- On W

[The Java Posse] Re: Componentized Designs

2008-09-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Joshua, Even if you sub-classed JComponent, couldn't you achieve the same result by making your class final? Craig On Sep 17, 4:34 pm, Joshua Marinacci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > By using this factory system it means that the client developer cannot   > subclass the co

[The Java Posse] Re: Componentized Designs

2008-09-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
on the roundabouts! Craig On Sep 17, 11:59 am, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Craig, > > At some level you have to expose the actual visual components, so yes, > there is that constant. What is much cleaner though, is the > presentation of the AP

[The Java Posse] Re: Componentized Designs

2008-09-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exactly. On Sep 17, 11:34 am, Joshua Marinacci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > By using this factory system it means that the client developer cannot   > subclass the component. They can only instantiate and configure it. > > On Sep 17, 2008, at 12:31 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] w

[The Java Posse] Re: Componentized Designs

2008-09-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
. If Swing were redesigned, I suspect they would avoid the deep hierarchies that have become so unwieldy. -Ken On Sep 17, 3:31 am, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Alexey, > > In the end, don't you expose exactly the same API whether you deri

[The Java Posse] Re: Componentized Designs

2008-09-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Alexey, In the end, don't you expose exactly the same API whether you derive from JComponent or return JComponent via an accessor method? I'm not necessarily arguing against doing it, I'm just playing devil's advocate! Craig. On Sep 17, 3:54 am, Alexey <[EMAIL P

[The Java Posse] Re: Componentized Designs

2008-09-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
m does. However, one of the other rules is to keep the API as small as possible, but no smaller, which this design pattern/idiom promotes. I guess what you gain on the swings (no pun intended) you lose on the roundabouts! Craig. On Sep 16, 2:40 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTE

[The Java Posse] Componentized Designs

2008-09-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[The Java Posse] Re: java array question

2008-09-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and people say Java is verbose don't know why ;) On Sep 10, 2:13 pm, Christian Catchpole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And again with the typos..  I havn't compiled it.. > >     public static Object[] expandArray(Object[] source)  { >         Object[] result = &

[The Java Posse] Re: Mac Widgets for Java

2008-09-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
s the route I wanted to take, much like iTunes did. -Ken On Sep 9, 4:20 am, BoD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just out of curiosity, is this using native calls? If not, what does it > look like on windows? > > BoD > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In case anyone's

[The Java Posse] Mac Widgets for Java

2008-09-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[The Java Posse] Tor's Thoughts on Episode #201

2008-09-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[The Java Posse] Re: Java Hotspot VM - an inferior web RIA runtime

2008-09-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[The Java Posse] Bloopers Episode

2008-09-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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