Re: [The Java Posse] Posse anti-Microsoft bias can lead to whitewashing of other companies' record

2010-04-10 Thread Alan Kent
Rakesh wrote: Hi Alan, even though I understand the sentiment, I think you are being hopelessly naive. To state that we shouldn't be allowed to question their motives or express opinions about their motives is being unrealistic in this modern age with these modern tools in this modern mediu

Re: [The Java Posse] Posse anti-Microsoft bias can lead to whitewashing of other companies' record

2010-04-08 Thread Rakesh
Hi Alan, even though I understand the sentiment, I think you are being hopelessly naive. To state that we shouldn't be allowed to question their motives or express opinions about their motives is being unrealistic in this modern age with these modern tools in this modern medium. They are not pro

Re: [The Java Posse] Posse anti-Microsoft bias can lead to whitewashing of other companies' record

2010-04-08 Thread Johannes Thönes
Yeah, I should read my emails before sending ;-) I meant Microsoft ... On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Wayne Fay wrote: >> P.S.: I feel the behaviour of Apple IS at least as unethical as the >> behaviour of Apple. The consequence for me is not using devices or > > behaviour(Apple) equals behaviou

Re: [The Java Posse] Posse anti-Microsoft bias can lead to whitewashing of other companies' record

2010-04-08 Thread Wayne Fay
> P.S.: I feel the behaviour of Apple IS at least as unethical as the > behaviour of Apple. The consequence for me is not using devices or behaviour(Apple) equals behaviour(Apple), I could not agree more! ;-) Wayne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Th

Re: [The Java Posse] Posse anti-Microsoft bias can lead to whitewashing of other companies' record

2010-04-08 Thread Johannes Thönes
Hi Alan, I very much agree with you and would even go a little bit further: I listen to the podcast because of the strong opinions expressed by the Javaposse members. This is the essence of the podcast and it gives me a chance, to maybe look at some topics from another perspective. So guys: Shout

Re: [The Java Posse] Posse anti-Microsoft bias can lead to whitewashing of other companies' record

2010-04-08 Thread Kevin Wright
Why love Groovy when you have Scala, it's obviously far superior :) On 8 April 2010 15:28, Alan Kent wrote: > I disagree with comments on this list like "Joe should not say X" or "Dick > should not say Y" (and must love the Goovy). The Posse are stating the > personal opinions. Go for it! We

Re: [The Java Posse] Posse anti-Microsoft bias can lead to whitewashing of other companies' record

2010-04-08 Thread Wildam Martin
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 15:10, Maarten wrote: > 2. I don't work for Microsoft. I don't get paid by them, and never > have. In fact, since I switched my desktop box at work from Windows to > OpenSolaris, I don't really use any of their products any more (at > least in a professional capacity). I wo

Re: [The Java Posse] Posse anti-Microsoft bias can lead to whitewashing of other companies' record

2010-04-08 Thread Alan Kent
I disagree with comments on this list like "Joe should not say X" or "Dick should not say Y" (and must love the Goovy). The Posse are stating the personal opinions. Go for it! We the listeners can decide ourselves whether we agree or not. Its always interesting to hear the arguments put for

[The Java Posse] Posse anti-Microsoft bias can lead to whitewashing of other companies' record

2010-04-08 Thread Maarten
Guys, There's something that's been bothering me for a while about certain discussion on the podcast. But first, let me clear up a few things. 1. I love the podcast. I started listening around the 30-something mark, haven't missed an episode since, and don't plan to stop listening any time soon. I