[The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2011-01-10 Thread Carl Jokl
Listening to the holiday podcast. Dick Wall has a Nexus S. Interesting. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javapo...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javapos

[The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2011-01-10 Thread Carl Jokl
The connector is a standard Micro-USB one and as was said I think that is the one being standardised on. I thought it was the Mini-USB which was being standardised on because I have seen a lot of phones using that one as well as the accessories. I haven't seen many Micro-USB connectors compared to

[The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2011-01-10 Thread Carl Jokl
Maybe it isn't a proprietary connector as I have noticed the Kindle uses the same connector too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javapo...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, s

[The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2011-01-10 Thread Casper Bang
> I am somewhat disappointed. The battery life is the worst I have had > on any phone I have owned but some others tell me that iPhones can > similarly go through the battery in less than a day when being used > heavily. Apart from more recent hardware (gfx in particular) and software, it's very h

[The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2011-01-10 Thread Karsten Silz
On Jan 10, 12:02 pm, Carl Jokl wrote: > I know a group of mobile manufacturers were trying to standardise the > phone charger connector to the Mini-USB connector in order to reduce > the number of different chargers. It doesn't seem like Samsung is > going along with this as the phone uses a propr

[The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2011-01-10 Thread Carl Jokl
There has been a bit of discussion about different Android Phones on the Motorola Xoom thread. It did make make me wonder if anyone besides me bought a Nexus S and if so what they thought of it. I know it is basically a Samsung Galaxy. I am somewhat disappointed. The battery life is the worst I ha

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2010-12-23 Thread Kevin Wright
There was, it got withdrawn... On 23 Dec 2010 15:03, "Carl Jokl" wrote: > When it comes to erasing memories I probably should have bought and > iPhone because 'there an app for that'...probably. > > On Dec 23, 2:58 pm, Jonathan Fuerth wrote: >> Just tap it on your forehead. I think the NFC featur

[The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2010-12-23 Thread Carl Jokl
When it comes to erasing memories I probably should have bought and iPhone because 'there an app for that'...probably. On Dec 23, 2:58 pm, Jonathan Fuerth wrote: > Just tap it on your forehead. I think the NFC feature supports extracting > and erasing memories. :) > > -Jonathan > > PS: looks like

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2010-12-23 Thread Jonathan Fuerth
Just tap it on your forehead. I think the NFC feature supports extracting and erasing memories. :) -Jonathan PS: looks like a great phone. Enjoy! On Dec 23, 2010 9:54 AM, "Carl Jokl" wrote: > My Nexus S arrived yesterday. > > Huzzah! > > Now I just need to wrap it and address it to myself and th

[The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2010-12-23 Thread Carl Jokl
My Nexus S arrived yesterday. Huzzah! Now I just need to wrap it and address it to myself and then erase my memory of having bought it so it will be a surprise. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send emai

[The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2010-12-15 Thread Mike Wolfson
Having a "vanilla" phone is very important to me. I just bought the G2 (US branded HTC phone) specifically because it has the "pure Android" experience. That was an important reason I bought the Nexus One (and would have been a good reason to buy the Nexus S if it wasn't missing some features tha

[The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2010-12-14 Thread Carl Jokl
Email confirms the transaction is complete. I wonder if I will trigger a security alert from my Credit Card company again. I will have to wait for it to arrive, wrap it up and label it to myself, then wipe my memory of buying it so it will be a surprise. -- You received this message because you

[The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2010-12-14 Thread Carl Jokl
Well, I have a Nexus S, pre-ordered from Carphone Warehouse. It was pretty expensive. I am hoping I did the right thing. Maybe owning an Android device would help me actually have an opinion based on actual experience. and I like shiny things -- You received this message because you are

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2010-12-10 Thread Reinier Zwitserloot
That sounds plausible. Whatever the reason, Google spreading the love amongst handset manufacturers is a good move. I'm glad they've managed to convince more than 1 hardware builder to ship a 'vanilla' phone as google envisioned it. Not that its a particularly big feat to do so, but android as a pl

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2010-12-10 Thread Jonathan Fuerth
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 4:09 PM, CKoerner wrote: > Anyone know why they chose Samsung this time over HTC for their Nexus > phone? Are HTC and Google at odds? > > I have a theory. Have a look at this: http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/2010/whos-suing-whom-in-the-telecoms-trade/ My observatio

[The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2010-12-08 Thread Karsten Silz
On Dec 7, 8:27 pm, Casper Bang wrote: > It looks as though Android is > starting to have ambitions regarding mobile gaming! Not a day too early: Mobile phones now make up 44% of mobile gaming; the rest is Nintendo DS and Sony PSP (both in decline). iOS is poised to become the number one mobile g

[The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2010-12-08 Thread Karsten Silz
On Dec 8, 10:58 am, Moandji Ezana wrote: > On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Karsten Silz wrote: > > > Here's what I imagine vendors go through with new Android builds: > > I can imagine it's a lot of work, but as an OEM, isn't it your business to > make that as fast as possible? I'm probably vastl

[The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2010-12-08 Thread Karsten Silz
On Dec 7, 8:42 pm, Moandji Ezana wrote: > If OHA members can access private repos all along, why don't they release > their builds a couple of weeks after Google? According to this post, OHA members have access to the private branches where all the development happens and that are 6+ months in th

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2010-12-08 Thread Moandji Ezana
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Karsten Silz wrote: > Here's what I imagine vendors go through with new Android builds: I can imagine it's a lot of work, but as an OEM, isn't it your business to make that as fast as possible? I'm probably vastly underestimating the complexities of producing a p

[The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2010-12-08 Thread Karsten Silz
On Dec 7, 8:42 pm, Moandji Ezana wrote: > If OHA members can access private repos all along, why don't they release > their builds a couple of weeks after Google? Here's what I imagine vendors go through with new Android builds: - Assuming they have access to the source: Check all the patches th

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2010-12-08 Thread Moandji Ezana
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 5:57 AM, Mike Wolfson wrote: > Its only an advantage until your phone stops working. The vendors > must spend a lot of time making sure their overlays work. > Hence the continuous testing. Moandji -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google G

[The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2010-12-07 Thread Mike Wolfson
Its only an advantage until your phone stops working. The vendors must spend a lot of time making sure their overlays work. On Dec 7, 3:03 pm, Moandji Ezana wrote: > I guess, but I'd have guessed that they'd do it continuously, every time > Google made a new drop available to them. Then, there

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2010-12-07 Thread Moandji Ezana
Agreed. Also, a lot of the new 2.3 features were already in sense. Moandji -- www.moandjiezana.com Sent from my Android On 7 Dec 2010 21:05, "Kevin Wright" wrote: > On 7 December 2010 19:54, Casper Bang wrote: > >> They need time to add all their crapware on top (Sense, Motoblur etc.) >> and t

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2010-12-07 Thread Kevin Wright
On 7 December 2010 19:54, Casper Bang wrote: > They need time to add all their crapware on top (Sense, Motoblur etc.) > and test? > > I can't comment on motoblur, but my experience with sense is generally very positive, some of their added widgets are... *gasp*... actually rather useful. -- Ke

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2010-12-07 Thread Moandji Ezana
I guess, but I'd have guessed that they'd do it continuously, every time Google made a new drop available to them. Then, there shouldn't be much delay. Being first with new versions of Android seems like a competitive advantage. Moandji -- www.moandjiezana.com Sent from my Android On 7 Dec 2010

[The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2010-12-07 Thread Casper Bang
They need time to add all their crapware on top (Sense, Motoblur etc.) and test? On Dec 7, 8:42 pm, Moandji Ezana wrote: > If OHA members can access private repos all along, why don't they release > their builds a couple of weeks after Google? > > Moandji > > --www.moandjiezana.com > > Sent from

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2010-12-07 Thread Moandji Ezana
If OHA members can access private repos all along, why don't they release their builds a couple of weeks after Google? Moandji -- www.moandjiezana.com Sent from my Android On 7 Dec 2010 20:27, "Casper Bang" wrote: >> Also the gaming focus Andy Rubin mentioned >> two months ago has to wait at le

[The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2010-12-07 Thread Casper Bang
> Also the gaming focus Andy Rubin mentioned > two months ago has to wait at least until Android 3.0 in Spring Well, the NDK has been substantially expanded to cater to game programmers and similar stuff that prefers deep native hooks (i.e. MonoDroid). > 2.3 still hasn't been opensourced, so I'm

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2010-12-07 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
On 12/06/2010 09:53 PM, Moandji Ezana wrote: Not sure what you mean by carrier phone, but my unlocked HTC Desire got 2.2 2-3 months after its release. So it'll probably be 2 months. My unlocked Motorola Milestone is still running 2.1 and no signs of the 2.2 update... It starts to be very an

[The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2010-12-07 Thread Carl Jokl
I wonder if this would be a good candidate for a Android phone to buy for myself this Christmas. The specs look quite good. It may have been nice to have a high res display (similar to Retina) but it is not a deal breaker. You mention that this is very similar to the Samsung Galaxy? The processor i

[The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2010-12-06 Thread CKoerner
Dalvik runtime changes for those who might find it interesting: Dalvik VM: --- Concurrent garbage collector (target sub-3ms pauses) Adds further JIT (code-generation) optimizations Improved code verification StrictMode debugging, for identifying performance and memory issues Core libr

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2010-12-06 Thread Miroslav Pokorny
Sounds to me that Google are following a similar pattern that Boeing and Airbus use w/ product announcements. Every new plane is released w/ a different (I believe the term is) launch customer. At a guess Google is simply rotating amongst it's manuf partners giving each a go to be under the spot

[The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2010-12-06 Thread CKoerner
Anyone know why they chose Samsung this time over HTC for their Nexus phone? Are HTC and Google at odds? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javapo...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2010-12-06 Thread Moandji Ezana
Isn't the Galaxy S still on 2.1, though? 2.3 still hasn't been opensourced, so I'm not sure OEM's can start porting it yet. Moandji -- www.moandjiezana.com Sent from my Android On 6 Dec 2010 21:53, "Karsten Silz" wrote: > On Dec 6, 8:16 pm, CKoerner wrote: >> Anyone care to bet on what they t

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2010-12-06 Thread Moandji Ezana
Not sure what you mean by carrier phone, but my unlocked HTC Desire got 2.2 2-3 months after its release. So it'll probably be 2 months. Moandji -- www.moandjiezana.com Sent from my Android On 6 Dec 2010 20:16, "CKoerner" wrote: > Anyone care to bet on what they think will be the first Carrier

[The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2010-12-06 Thread Karsten Silz
On Dec 6, 8:16 pm, CKoerner wrote: > Anyone care to bet on what they think will be the first Carrier phone > updated to Gingerbread and how long between the time now to then it > will be? I would assume it's the Samsung Galaxy phone line since the Nexus S is a revision of it. -- You received th

[The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2010-12-06 Thread CKoerner
Anyone care to bet on what they think will be the first Carrier phone updated to Gingerbread and how long between the time now to then it will be? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javapo...@g

[The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2010-12-06 Thread Karsten Silz
On Dec 6, 6:12 pm, CKoerner wrote: > http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/introducing-nexus-s-with-ginge... > > http://www.google.com/nexus/#!/index It's mostly refinements in Gingerbread (keyboard, copy & paste, UI), or so it seems. Still, this is good for Android users (if and when they actu