[The Java Posse] Re: Droid X self-destructs if you try to mod it..

2010-07-22 Thread Reinier Zwitserloot
Just in case nobody's mentioned it yet in this thread, according to Motorola, the eFuse thing does NOT brick the phone, instead it prevents booting unsigned firmware. You can unbrick it by putting the original firmware back. This still sucks, but is par for the course in the business. On Jul 21,

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Droid X self-destructs if you try to mod it..

2010-07-21 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/21/10 17:32 , Nick Brown wrote: > Actually in the car analogy, you can't just mod it at will, the > car still has to be street legal. But my issue here is, can't you > essentially write an app that would overload the network? There > certainly m

[The Java Posse] Re: Droid X self-destructs if you try to mod it..

2010-07-21 Thread Nick Brown
Actually in the car analogy, you can't just mod it at will, the car still has to be street legal. But my issue here is, can't you essentially write an app that would overload the network? There certainly may be legal issues with that (plus Apple would sue you for violating their patents), but I'd

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Droid X self-destructs if you try to mod it..

2010-07-21 Thread jitesh dundas
The issue here is that the estimated risks that are seen in the future on this.. Android or any other,the problem is on how well we solve that problem and that is where research comes into picture. It is not abt reinventing the wheel,rather making a better wheel for that env..your invention might

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Droid X self-destructs if you try to mod it..

2010-07-21 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/21/10 09:47 , Casper Bang wrote: > So why would users mod their phones? For the same reason people > install a new OS on their PC, or updates to latest version. Let me > also qualify this a little bit, upgrading to the latest > CyanogenMod OTA is

[The Java Posse] Re: Droid X self-destructs if you try to mod it..

2010-07-21 Thread Casper Bang
Bah, a smart-phone is just another physical device... not unlike a car. The fact that phones rely on various network pipes to reach the outside world, is irrelevant to the device itself. I realize that in the US, the two concepts carrier and handset is chained together with massive handcuffs but th

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Droid X self-destructs if you try to mod it..

2010-07-20 Thread Sean Comerford
Pretty crazy and I'm NOT saying I approve. But I can't entirely blame them either. I don't really know much about what people mod their phones for (with 2 young kids and a wife that also works I barely have time for my day job work never mind hacking my cell phone :-) especially non apple ones. B

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Droid X self-destructs if you try to mod it..

2010-07-20 Thread Derek Munneke
On 20 July 2010 00:05, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote: > Someone might want to update the wikipedia page then :P > done -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javapo...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscri

[The Java Posse] Re: Droid X self-destructs if you try to mod it..

2010-07-20 Thread Donal Tobin
XPERIA 2.1 is not out for a number of months yet (to be released region by region and at the service providers discretion, in the third quarter of this year, according to official announcements). Version 2.2 is slated for before the end of the year but no date has yet been set (given the current up

[The Java Posse] Re: Droid X self-destructs if you try to mod it..

2010-07-19 Thread Reinier Zwitserloot
Someone might want to update the wikipedia page then :P On Jul 19, 12:26 am, franz wrote: > JFYI: Somehow you got misinformed. XPERIA update to 2.1 is out > already... with 2.2 expected... > > On Jul 16, 8:31 am, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote: > > > > > Don't be a moto. Buy some HTC device instead.

[The Java Posse] Re: Droid X self-destructs if you try to mod it..

2010-07-19 Thread franz
JFYI: Somehow you got misinformed. XPERIA update to 2.1 is out already... with 2.2 expected... On Jul 16, 8:31 am, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote: > Don't be a moto. Buy some HTC device instead. Android wins. > > NB: In general, I get the extremely strong impression that so far the > only acceptable a

[The Java Posse] Re: Droid X self-destructs if you try to mod it..

2010-07-16 Thread Reinier Zwitserloot
Or computers that blow up if you install official Dell(TM) parts. Oh, wait. On Jul 16, 11:48 am, Christian Catchpole wrote: > I wonder if car manufactures will build a car that bursts into flames > if you install non-genuine parts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[The Java Posse] Re: Droid X self-destructs if you try to mod it..

2010-07-16 Thread Christian Catchpole
I wonder if car manufactures will build a car that bursts into flames if you install non-genuine parts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javapo...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this g

[The Java Posse] Re: Droid X self-destructs if you try to mod it..

2010-07-15 Thread Reinier Zwitserloot
Don't be a moto. Buy some HTC device instead. Android wins. NB: In general, I get the extremely strong impression that so far the only acceptable android device is the Nexus One; I was just now in a phone shop that was peddling a Sony Ericsson Xperia 10. It was reasonably nice, but it had android

[The Java Posse] Re: Droid X self-destructs if you try to mod it..

2010-07-15 Thread Casper Bang
> But it's one model in a portfolio (in contrast with Apple). As soon as > it's not a trend, the important point is that people are aware of it > (let's recall that 99% of people aren't interested in double booting > their phone). True, but many consumers won't know this, yet they can easily be bi

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Droid X self-destructs if you try to mod it..

2010-07-15 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/15/10 12:06 , Matthew Kerle wrote: > the sad truth is that most consumers won't know and/or care. But > that's fine, the geeks (like me!) will buy HTC instead and > hopefully they will go from strength to strength. > > I really like that Moto has

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Droid X self-destructs if you try to mod it..

2010-07-15 Thread Matthew Kerle
the sad truth is that most consumers won't know and/or care. But that's fine, the geeks (like me!) will buy HTC instead and hopefully they will go from strength to strength. I really like that Moto has gotten behind and android, but this is worse than anything Apple's done. I hope they sell lots o

[The Java Posse] Re: Droid X self-destructs if you try to mod it..

2010-07-15 Thread Casper Bang
Yeah it's ridiculous. Google trying to open up the cell phone marked and then Moto pulls off a stunt like this... something you'd expect more coming from Apple. I hope it will cause a backlash for Motorola, what an arrogant move for a handset manufacturer that owes it's recent success to Android.