[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-10-01 Thread sebastian.s
*push* View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4258246#4258246 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4258246 ___ jboss-user mailing list jboss-user@lists.jboss.o

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-10-01 Thread sebastian.s
It seems strange to me that are just a few people interested in this topic although the situation described seems to me very common. Are there still so few people working with 4.x or has nobody run across the problem? If you have it would be great to count on your vote in JIRA. View the origina

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-09-30 Thread sebastian.s
I commented on this again since I consider this really important because at the moment it makes you change your process model for escalations which is probably not wanted. If this was possible in 3.x this would also lead to problems when migrating from 3.x to 4.x, right? Regarding the behaviour

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-09-30 Thread kukeltje
hmm... JBPM-2537 is targeted at 4.3, I saw you added your vote to it. Great now gather others to do the same to increase the chance of it getting fixed quicker -;) I'm not sure what the default behaviour in jBPM 3 is, if that is to end (cancel) the task, the same should happen here, without hav

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-09-30 Thread sebastian.s
No problem, I did not succeed either in finding it on JIRA. Forgot to mention I tried searching JIRA. Thanks for your effort. I really hope this will be fixed in 4.2. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257978#4257978 Reply to the post : http://

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-09-30 Thread kukeltje
Thanks and sorry... while I was reading your jira issue I DID find the other one (not sure why it did not show up earlier) https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBPM-2537 So I'll close yours as a duplicate. Again, sorry View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=vie

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-09-30 Thread sebastian.s
Here we go: https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBPM-2559 I did not write a lot since there is a link to the forum post and I supplied a process definition and the unit test. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257963#4257963 Reply to the post :

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-09-30 Thread kukeltje
Hmmm I thought I already responded. To me it is a bug, but others might think not so (not sure what their arguments would be). please file a jira issue, I do not seem to be able to find one View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257894#4257894 Reply

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-09-30 Thread sebastian.s
I'd really like having some feedback on this since for me questions arise: - Is this behaviour just not desired from my point of view but conform to the processs excecution model in jBPM? - Is this a bug since there is a task in somebody's task list which cannot be completed nor deleted? It can

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-09-29 Thread sebastian.s
Okay, thanks for all the hints. It was really due to a classpath problem. Here's what I found: Logging and using Tom's hint with the DBManager showed that there was a query for an execution which did not exist anymore. Before the executing of the job (transition with timer to task "escalation"

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-09-29 Thread tom.baey...@jboss.com
configuration file looks good. maybe you have multiple logging.properties files on your classpath. check that you have only one. another thing that you can do when you are in your ide is put this text in your Display window: org.hsqldb.util.DatabaseManager.main(new String[]{}) | select it

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-09-29 Thread sebastian.s
I don't manage to turn up the loglevel. Any hints? View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257632#4257632 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4257632 ___ jbos

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-09-28 Thread sebastian.s
I must be doing something wrong since I don't see more in the log. | handlers= java.util.logging.ConsoleHandler | redirect.commons.logging = enabled | | java.util.logging.ConsoleHandler.level = FINEST | java.util.logging.ConsoleHandler.formatter = org.jbpm.internal.log.LogFormatter

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-09-28 Thread sebastian.s
I am going to turn up the loglevel. The process was deployed with just one timer, does not change anything. The duplicate timers are due to the GPD bug already reported in JIRA. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257458#4257458 Reply to the post

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-09-28 Thread kukeltje
ok, and I only now see there are 3 identical timers on the transition. Can you remove those and also turn up the loglevel when running the unittest. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257457#4257457 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-09-28 Thread sebastian.s
There is an additional task to complete afterwards which I have not completed so the process should not be ended. I am doing an assertTrue(processInstance.isActive("task2")); in the unit test and it does not fail. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopi

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-09-28 Thread kukeltje
might be because the process is actually already ended Can you check? View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257316#4257316 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4257316

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-09-28 Thread sebastian.s
Full Stacktrace .. | ### EXCEPTION ### | 11:00:39,186 INF | [DefaultCommandService] exception while executing command org.jbpm.pvm.internal.cmd.completetask...@1c01ba9 | org.hibernate.ObjectNotFoundException: No row with the given identifier exists:

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-09-28 Thread sebastian.s
I'll have a look into JIRA and I will verify that I am not mixing up files from different versions. But what about my actual problem (see my last post). How do I get rid of the task which is not needed anymore? View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=42

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-09-28 Thread kukeltje
there was a change in the businesscalendar config afaik between 4.0, and 4.1 (or was it towards 4.2, not fully sure). Did you change versions? If so, search the jira for the related task and see if it is the possible cause. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=v

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-09-27 Thread sebastian.s
I do not know what exactly is the problem with the BusinessCalendar but I created my process and my unit test within the examples project and the error has gone away. Now back to the actual goal. Please disregard my old post since there were some mistakes and things missing. My process definiti

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-09-26 Thread sebastian.s
I must be doing something wrong. I took the unit tests of the supplied examples as a base (regarding configuration files) which always worked fine for and I created my process and my tests. The problem is that an exception is thrown: | 12:03:47,093 FIN | [ProcessDefinitionImpl] creating new e

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-09-25 Thread kukeltje
Yes I think you do need that. Would be nice if you made a unit test first to test if that really works. I think it does, but not completely sure. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257102#4257102 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.htm

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-09-25 Thread sebastian.s
Thanks for your interesting answer, Ronald. I think for know I use the timer/transitition approach because I need I want to visualize the escalation in the diagram shown in the console. So it would be necessary to call a completeTask() for the "old task" manually to remove it from the first user

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-09-25 Thread kukeltje
oh, in addition, in 4 the tasks remains open, also not what you want I think. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257066#4257066 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4257066

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-09-25 Thread kukeltje
"The European guy" wrote : I managed to use a timer to make the engine take a timeout transition after some time. My question here: If you make the engine take the transition like this is the previous task completed? Or is this the wrong approach and I should just change the assignment of the ta

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-09-25 Thread sebastian.s
Regarding the task lifecyle I have not written anything since I have not yet looked into this. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257061#4257061 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4257061 ___

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-09-25 Thread sebastian.s
Thanks for this really long answer, Ronald. In my opinion you are right, escalation is a very complex thing and can mean a lot and I appreciate the flexibility of jBPM but maybe we should think of a basic thing to be included with the distro while replacing it with your own implementation is sti

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-09-25 Thread kukeltje
One day late, and afternoon already since this response required a little digging for me :-) In theory you are right, escalating is a basic BPM-thing In practical situations howeever, escalation differs from company to company, department to department etc... and if you have a look at http:/

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-09-24 Thread sebastian.s
Okay, I just went over the specific part of the article again and to me it seems it is possible. It just seems to me that is a bit too much code for a basic BPM-thing as an escaltion is one. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4256809#4256809 Reply