Gerhard wrote : What is your incentive to develop a webbased process designer?
I think the entire jBPM team will agree that the most effective incentive for
us is beer... :-))
The incentive for you could be eternal fame... ;-)
Alex wrote : do you think it would be possible to have (at some point
Gerhard,
Your work sounds really cool! It has a slight disadvantage, tough: it is
Visio-based, not web-based :-(
Anyway, I'm particularly interested in the define your own template part.
What'd be needed to create a BPEL editor?
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Alex,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : What'd be needed to create a BPEL editor?
http://www.eclipse.org/bpel/ but I'm sure you already knew this one. Can I now
get a large bottle of XX? Nice mexican beer, then I send you a champagne sized
bottle of Heineken
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Hey this is great. It has been announced for almost half a year now, but it is
the first time I actually see something... Finally I can begin to integrate
it... ;-)
Cheers,
Koen
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Hello Alex
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| Your work sounds really cool! It has a slight disadvantage, tough: it is
Visio-based, not web-based :-(
Visio is not webbased, that's true and this could be a disadvantage. It was a
requirement of our customer to use Visio. But you know,
I thought it was a continuation of the awful BPEL designer that IBM offered
in alphaWorks along with their (non-open source) BPEL4J engine, and disregarded
it. Now I see the effort is led by Oracle people.
Ronald, you got it - where do I send your Dohs-Eh-Keys to?
Koen, from the integration
nafisehasani wrote : Hi
| Is there any roadmap for developing a web based GPD ?
| for exmple openwfe has a web based graphical process designer named droflo
and I think it is a really good advantage , imagine that a manager can change
the flow of his company in a web based environment !
Imagine that the manager knows the process of his company ;-)
Personally I think the advantage of a web based designer is not that big.
Droflo is not bad, but the ease with which you develop processes can not be
compared to jBPM GPD.
That does not mean a web based GPD is not interesting and
Imagine that the manager knows the process of his company and can change it on
demand ;-)
I agree with you that working with your GPD is realy easier and smarter than
droflo but you know , I think it's worth developing a web based GPD .
37 developers can do that ;-)
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Ok... my turn
Imagine that the manager knows the process of his company and can change it on
demand and totaly screws it up;-)
And as a matter of fact I am not joking. We have at the company I work for have
a tool to only draw the internal processes and manually at the values of kpi's.
It's
my turn now !
Imagine that the manager knows the process of his company and can change it on
demand and totaly screws it up unless she/he was educated for working with your
tool ;-)
actually in a company you can have an expert for working with such tools (we
can educate one of them to work
ok , I said that if a person understand the concepts of process management and
also know the tool , it is rarely happens that she/he screwed the
organizational processes and I think it is not Hilarious ;-)
so let me know what is the meaning of on demand business ?
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Never, ever tell the business side something is easy or can be done in an hour.
Everything MUST take at least 5 days.
Then, and only then, does the business side think through the consequences of
any change requests and if they still want it, well... maybe they can get it a
bit cheaper.
I'm
after all , I think if you prepare what the business really want you will be
the winner ! if a task can be done in a day why it should be done in 5 days ?
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the main question is that whats your idea about developing a web based GPD ?
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