Re: [jdev] My GSoC project : to continue the PyMSNt development.

2008-04-08 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Florent wrote: Hi all, I have seen this week only that James Bunton no longer wanted to continue developing the MSN transport, since all his friends are now using Jabber. Perhaps that's a sign of the times. :) I'm also applying for two other GSoC projects, but this one is the most

Re: [jdev] My GSoC project : to continue the PyMSNt development.

2008-04-08 Thread Sander Devrieze
2008/4/8, Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am not convinced that working on transports is an appropriate topic for the Google Summer of Code. I plan to give my votes to projects that improve or extend XMPP itself, not provide bridges to closed technologies. I do not agree on this.

Re: [jdev] My GSoC project : to continue the PyMSNt development.

2008-04-08 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Sander Devrieze wrote: 2008/4/8, Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am not convinced that working on transports is an appropriate topic for the Google Summer of Code. I plan to give my votes to projects that improve or extend XMPP itself, not provide bridges to closed technologies.

Re: [jdev] My GSoC project : to continue the PyMSNt development.

2008-04-08 Thread Daniel Henninger
I don't disagree from the client perspective. But my philosophy has always been to make XMPP as great as it can be, then everyone else will eventually decide that they need to use XMPP and not some proprietary garbage. I won't get into my diatribe about why I think that will never happen.

Re: [jdev] My GSoC project : to continue the PyMSNt development.

2008-04-08 Thread Tomasz Sterna
Dnia 2008-04-08, wto o godzinie 18:08 +, Daniel Henninger pisze: I won't get into my diatribe about why I think that will never happen. People were saying the same about SMTP. You know - this marginal protocol used to bridge proprietary Electronic Mail systems... -- /\_./o__ Tomasz

Re: [jdev] My GSoC project : to continue the PyMSNt development.

2008-04-08 Thread Daniel Henninger
Ok, I’ll believe it when I see it. Daniel On 4/8/08 5:48 PM, Tomasz Sterna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dnia 2008-04-08, wto o godzinie 18:08 +, Daniel Henninger pisze: I won't get into my diatribe about why I think that will never happen. People were saying the same about SMTP. You know -

Re: [jdev] My GSoC project : to continue the PyMSNt development.

2008-04-08 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Daniel Henninger wrote: I don't disagree from the client perspective. But my philosophy has always been to make XMPP as great as it can be, then everyone else will eventually decide that they need to use XMPP and not some proprietary garbage. I won't get into my diatribe about why I think

[jdev] OLPC, Federation, and NAT

2008-04-08 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Jabber Developers, I am a volunteer for the One Laptop Per Child foundation. OLPC uses XMPP for much of its communications infrastructure. All Collaborative Activities use XMPP to share information between laptops. In schools where there is