I think this is a good idea. Sander has enlightened me to GTalk's success, it
is because they don't confuse users with terms such as Jabber and XMPP,
however, it is important to remember your roots. How about having a 'slogan'
under Instant Messaging Client with Whiteboard saying Powered by
Jonathan Dickinson;1555 Wrote:
I think this is a good idea. Sander has enlightened me to GTalk's
success, it is because they don't confuse users with terms such as
Jabber and XMPP, however, it is important to remember your roots. How
about having a 'slogan' under Instant Messaging Client
Hi All,
I am new to the XMPP world, and have just started to learn it.
I want to build a small web client that connects to xmpp servers, and allows
the user to chat. For this I tried using both XMPP4JS and JSJac. In the
sample client provided by both of these libraries I am getting
Hi Rohan,
BOSH is what Javascript libraries would use to communicate with a XMPP server
(remember, Javascript cannot send raw data over the network, all comms must
occur over HTTP).
What this means to you is that:
1. No client set up is needed. The javascript libraries (should) include
Hi Jonathan,
Thanks a lot for your reply. You have cleared my confusion.
Coming back to my first question, can anyone who has used XMPP4JS or JSJac
know how to troubleshoot the issue.
-Rohan
On 7/7/08, Jonathan Dickinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Rohan,
BOSH is what
I think the main problem (I am no expert) is that most average people see
websites as atomical. They connect to live.com and are provided with a IM
client that brands itself as live.com etc. The same goes for Hotmail/Gmail/etc.
Jabber can be confusing in that most users are used to connecting
On Jul 07, 2008, at 11:13, Jonathan Dickinson wrote:
I think the main problem (I am no expert) is that most average
people see websites as atomical. They connect to live.com and are
provided with a IM client that brands itself as live.com etc. The
same goes for Hotmail/Gmail/etc.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Andreas Monitzer
Sent: 07 July 2008 11:23 AM
To: Jabber/XMPP software development list
Subject: Re: [jdev] [OT] XMPP icons
...
Well, people on Gmail or Hotmail don't assume that they can only email
I really cannot agree to all the last emails about whether XMPP or
Jabber is a better name.
And, as expected, here we go again. Please look at previous threads
(there's one every half year or so), and see how they die down without
any conclusions after many people wasted a lot of time they
On Sun Jul 6 08:57:26 2008, Sander Devrieze wrote:
2008/7/6 Remko Tronçon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Coccinella also will change to use the XMPP logo as the bulb
is confusing.
*Sigh*, another XMPP vs Jabber discussion, only this time
disguised in
a logo discussion? Jabber vs. XMPP
Hi Rohan,
I don't think you will need to troubleshoot anything if you connect to a BOSH
capable server. Try that first and see if you have any luck...
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rohan Shah
Sent: 07 July 2008 10:55 AM
To: Jabber/XMPP software development list
Remko Tronçon;1567 Wrote:
I really cannot agree to all the last emails about whether XMPP or
Jabber is a better name.
And, as expected, here we go again. Please look at previous threads
(there's one every half year or so), and see how they die down without
any conclusions after many
Hi Jonathan,
i got this msg when i tried connecting to gmail.com. I believe gmail is BOSH
capable server. Or is it not?
-Rohan
On 7/7/08, Jonathan Dickinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Rohan,
I don't think you will need to troubleshoot anything if you connect to a
BOSH capable server.
Maybe your client library doesn't support X-AUTH-GOOGTOKEN (a google extension
to XMPP). Try another server... I am not even entirely sure if GTalk does
support the actual XEP, it might be a home-grown implementation (still BOSH,
but not as per the XEP).
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL
2008/7/7 Jonathan Dickinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I think this is a good idea. Sander has enlightened me to GTalk's success, it
is because they don't confuse users with terms such as Jabber and XMPP,
however, it is important to remember your roots. How about having a 'slogan'
under Instant
Hi Rohan,
You could look at the following page:
http://www.butterfat.net/wiki/Projects/PunJab
He also has a running demo at chesspark.com, although I am not sure about the
address you should connect to...
You *should* also try mabber. I would be almost certain that it has BOSH
support.
I get what you are saying. But right now I also tried jabber.org id too.
Still throwing the same error. any ideas on alternative to this javascript
XMPP library?
On 7/7/08, Jonathan Dickinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe your client library doesn't support X-AUTH-GOOGTOKEN (a google
2008/7/7 Dave Cridland [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
snip
That said, how did you contact the council? I don't remember anything
on the Council list, for example.
snip
AFAIK that list is private and read-only for the public. (I did send
an email or IM to stpeter and maybe someone else)
But again, this
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 7:36 AM, Rohan Shah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I get what you are saying. But right now I also tried jabber.org id too.
Still throwing the same error. any ideas on alternative to this javascript
XMPP library?
You can try strophe.
This is slightly OT but wouldn't a compatibility matrix be nice?
E.g. Rohan comes in and sees that XMPP4JS and JSJac don't seem to be working
with GTalk and j.o, he reports it and the compatibility matrix is updated. This
way 'end-user developers' would be able to see which libraries work where
Rohan Shah wrote:
I get what you are saying. But right now I also tried jabber.org
http://jabber.org id too. Still throwing the same error.
The jabber.org server does not yet support BOSH, but we'll be adding
support soon.
any ideas on
alternative to this javascript XMPP library?
There
Sander Devrieze wrote:
2008/7/5 naw [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
El Sábado 05 Julio 2008, JabberForum escribió:
What about this little bulb? For my own, I like it... or at least I
prefer it to this big X which looks really marketing to me (more than
the bulb)...
I also prefer Jabber and the bulb to
Jonathan Dickinson wrote:
It doesn't matter if Aunt Tillie knows if she is using XMPP or not,
as long as she is. And if someone asks her if she is she will be
pleasantly surprised that she is, indeed, using Jabber/XMPP.
Exactly!
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Pedro Melo wrote:
Hi,
in case you need XMPP logo icons, I converted the SVG to PNGs
512x512, 256x256, 128x128 and 64x64, both regular and crushed, with
alpha channel.
You can find them here:
http://www.simplicidade.org/me/xmpp.html
and in a ZIP here:
Sander Devrieze wrote:
2008/7/7 Dave Cridland [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
snip
That said, how did you contact the council? I don't remember anything
on the Council list, for example.
snip
AFAIK that list is private and read-only for the public.
True.
(I did send
an email or IM to stpeter and
2008/7/7 Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
snip
(I did send
an email or IM to stpeter and maybe someone else)
You're always sending me IMs. :P
I'm sure I already send you at least 1 email! :D
But again, this would be a board matter - you ought to re-raise this
on the XSF's Members list,
Sander Devrieze wrote:
2008/7/7 Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
snip
(I did send
an email or IM to stpeter and maybe someone else)
You're always sending me IMs. :P
I'm sure I already send you at least 1 email! :D
Probably that, too.
But again, this would be a board matter - you
This is slightly OT but wouldn't a compatibility matrix be nice?
E.g. Rohan comes in and sees that XMPP4JS and JSJac don't seem to be working
with GTalk and j.o, he reports it and the compatibility matrix is updated.
This way 'end-user developers' would be able to see which libraries work
By popular demand, I have created two special-purpose discussion lists,
one for BOSH (XEP-0124 and XEP-0206) and one for Jingle (XEPs 166, 167,
176, 177, 181, and 234). These lists are mostly for focused discussion
among developers who have implemented or are implementing support for
these
naw wrote:
El Viernes 04 Julio 2008, Sander Devrieze escribió:
2008/7/4 Pedro Melo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi,
in case you need XMPP logo icons, I converted the SVG to PNGs
512x512, 256x256, 128x128 and 64x64, both regular and crushed, with
alpha channel.
You can find them here:
We need an aggregate list, one that just gets /all/ the messages from
all the lists. That way I don't have to keep adding myself to a
million xmpp lists :)
~ Anders
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
By popular demand, I have created two special-purpose
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 10:47 PM, Lastwebpage Peter Flindt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am fully agree, I use the IRC network, but I don't chat by using a
rfc1459 client. ;)
I can just see it now: Joe's Instant Messenger (POWERED BY RFC3920 and
RFC3921!!!)
--
- Norman Rasmussen
- Email:
Sander Devrieze wrote:
2008/7/7 Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Jabber is to XMPP as the Web is to HTTP.
Right
Geeks talk about HTTP, but end users talk about web browsers and web sites.
Wrong. When end users read http://www.example.org/;, they will
*associate* this with the address
2008/7/7 Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Sander Devrieze wrote:
2008/7/7 Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Jabber is to XMPP as the Web is to HTTP.
Right
Geeks talk about HTTP, but end users talk about web browsers and web
sites.
Wrong. When end users read
Sander Devrieze;1603 Wrote:
Neither Jabber not XMPP should be used IMHO. Let them use the term
instant messaging, but make them *associate* the term XMPP with
instant messaging. When people (both geeks and end users) see the
term XMPP and/or the logo on a website or in some software, they
2008/7/7 JabberForum [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Sander Devrieze;1603 Wrote:
Neither Jabber not XMPP should be used IMHO. Let them use the term
instant messaging, but make them *associate* the term XMPP with
instant messaging. When people (both geeks and end users) see the
term XMPP and/or the logo
Hi,
I needed to get the whole SVN of XSF offline, with history, and given
that I already do something similar with other projects, I created a
mirror of the SVN of XSF using git.
The repository is hosted at github. You can find it at http://
github.com/xsf/documentation/ and clone it from
Hi all,
I recently subscribed to JDev@jabber.org and [EMAIL PROTECTED] through
http://www.xmpp.org/about/discuss.shtml web page.
I get daily email digests and I would like to get instead individual emails as
they are sent.
How can I change this settings for my subscription?
Thank you,
Ovidiu
El Martes 08 Julio 2008, Ovidiu Craciun escribió:
Hi all,
I recently subscribed to JDev@jabber.org and [EMAIL PROTECTED] through
http://www.xmpp.org/about/discuss.shtml web page.
I get daily email digests and I would like to get instead individual emails
as they are sent. How can I change
Ovidiu Craciun wrote:
Hi all,
I recently subscribed to JDev@jabber.org and [EMAIL PROTECTED] through
http://www.xmpp.org/about/discuss.shtml web page.
I get daily email digests and I would like to get instead individual emails
as they are sent.
How can I change this settings for my
Peter has made valid points as seen below my message. What are the
differences between branding and marketing. Branding is an association of a
name to quality, offerings, and perceptions in the market space. Marketing
is a consumer centric message to educate the market and differentiate the
Pedro Melo wrote:
Hi,
I needed to get the whole SVN of XSF offline, with history, and given
that I already do something similar with other projects, I created a
mirror of the SVN of XSF using git.
The repository is hosted at github. You can find it at http://
Christopher,
Thanks for your suggestion. In the link however, only the preview
version of Strophe is available. Is that enough. And do we have some sample
html page which uses this library to connect and chat with xmpp based
servers like gtalk.
-Rohan
On 7/7/08, Christopher Zorn [EMAIL
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