Re: help for glenn

2003-08-26 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
Sandra - Original Message - From: Eliezer Kaplan To: World music from a Jewish slant Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 3:37 PM Subject: Re: help for glenn I saw some similar tambourines shopping at a Hebrew bookstore in Seattle a few mo

Re: help for glenn

2003-08-26 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
I saw some similar tambourines shopping at a Hebrew bookstore in Seattle a few months ago (the one across the street from the bakery and kosher cafe not far from University of Wa)- not necessarily Israeli flags but heads painted with Jewish themes.  Almost bought one (I think they they were

Re: Sobig-F virus and our list

2003-08-22 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
Lori- I think the word you're looking for is 'spoofed'. This happened to me a few weeks ago- yes, it was annoying but there wasn't a thing to do for it. Don't try to assign any rhyme or reason to these things. They just happen.                                         ek   - Original

Re: Critical Flaw Leaves Windows Server 2003 Vulnerable

2003-08-14 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
> How could anyone take their products seriously? Working with MS products bought my house. I, for one, am not complaining. EK - Original Message - From: "I. Oppenheim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "World music from a Jewish slant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent:

Re: technology in performance (a bit OT)

2003-07-21 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
Electronic music can be as real-time as anything. It depends greatly on what, exactly, is pre-arranged and what isn't. It's possible to keep things fresh by throwing in some elements of randomness as well. And 'taped' isn't necessarily taped- it can be MIDI generated. A smart programmer know

Re: Turkish music

2003-06-13 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
Way to go Simon! Stuff at that Kalan site looks real interesting. I'm sure you'll let us all know when you have these things? - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "World music from a Jewish slant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:58 PM Subject: Re: Turkish

Re: yemenite instruments

2003-05-21 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
Jewish slant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 5:15 PM > Subject: Re: yemenite instruments > > > > My recollection is that the Yemenites play mostly or exclusively on found > > objects, like oil drums, which I suspect they would interpret as kosher in

Re: Request for Information about Rakhel Hadass

2003-05-20 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
I think she wants Songs of Israel by Rakhel(sic)- Monitor MCD71364. I might have gotten my copy at Borders. ek - Original Message - From: "H. Kaufman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "World music from a Jewish slant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, M

Re: yemenite instruments

2003-05-20 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
So that means percussion is not an instrument (halachically- for the Yemenites)? - Original Message - From: "Helen Winkler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "World music from a Jewish slant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 9:58 PM Subject: Re: yemenite instruments > > The article

Re: Exile - Gilad Atzmon & The Orient House Ensemble CD Review

2003-05-18 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
"Gilad Atzmon is probably the most exciting phenomenon to have hit the international jazz world since Eric Dolphy and John Coltrane." More exciting than the entire AACM, specifically the Art Ensemble, Braxton, Threadgill? More exciting than Zorn, Bailey, Lacy? More exciting than Keith Tippett? Hug

Re: Lorele's contest

2003-05-16 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
> Can you believe I'm going to open for Steppenwolf? Is that a howl or > what? They were the first rock concert I ever saw. Sounds like a magic carpet ride- a real monster of a time. But we always knew that you were born to be wild. ;-) - Original Message - From: "Lori Cahan-Simon" <[

Re: lyric of an hebrew song

2003-05-11 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
Might that be 'Nitzanim'? http://www.rebeccawave.com/printmc02/nitzanim.htm - Original Message - From: jean luc dubuc To: World music from a Jewish slant Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 11:28 AM Subject: lyric of an hebrew song shalom, I am looking for the lyrics

Re: Why genre classification is not only necessary but desired

2003-05-07 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
> "Seth -- I am giving you my ticket to Naftule's Dream as a reminder that > you do your readers a great disservice by recommending klez [sic] bands > which deliver avantgarde -- unlistenable -- music. Please stay alert to > your audience which seeks traditional enjoyment." So according to this pe

Re: Why genre classification is not only necessary but desired

2003-05-07 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
and if you're 30-50 & live in the midwest it's what Lori's band plays ;-) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: World music from a Jewish slant Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 2:44 PM Subject: Re: Why genre classification is not only necessary but desi

Re: Richard Farina/Carolyn Hester + Re: musical genres

2003-05-07 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
t; To: "World music from a Jewish slant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 7:09 AM Subject: Re: Richard Farina/Carolyn Hester + Re: musical genres > > - Original Message - > From: "Eliezer Kaplan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "W

Re: Richard Farina/Carolyn Hester + Re: musical genres

2003-05-07 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
ECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 8:14 PM Subject: Re: Richard Farina/Carolyn Hester + Re: musical genres > > - Original Message - > From: "Eliezer Kaplan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "World music from a Jewish slant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > S

Re: Richard Farina/Carolyn Hester + Re: musical genres

2003-05-06 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
As long as we've been on the topics of genres and Sunny and the Blues Project: GENRE-CLASSIFY THIS: Batman and Robin by The Sensational Guitars of Dan and Dale (a.k.a. Sun Ra with his horn section + The Blues Project) rec 1066 reissued & currently available on Universe Records

Re: musical genres

2003-05-06 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
I said 'not me personally'. But consider the novice listener. (also, careful with the set theory around me, Seth- got an advanced degree in that s*** :-) - Original Message - From: "Seth Rogovoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "World music from a Jewish slant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday,

Re: musical genres

2003-05-06 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
> To: "World music from a Jewish slant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 6:39 PM Subject: Re: musical genres > On Mon, 5 May 2003, Eliezer Kaplan wrote: > > > Judeo-Christian religious broadway classical rock > > > > Last I looked neither T

Re: An Israelite Odyssey - Review of Koby Israelite's "Dance of

2003-05-05 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
- Original Message - From: "r l reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "r l reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "World music from a Jewish slant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 8:53 AM Subject: Re: An Israelite Odyssey - Review of Koby Israelite's &

Re: musical genres

2003-05-05 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
Here's how I'd do it- > 1) Salim Halali- Ses Plus Grand Succes (aka L'Album D'Or Vol. 1) Sephardic Elvis > 2) Klezmatics- Jews With Horns Klezmer Rock > 3) Captain Beefheart- Shiny Beast Dictated western pop-rock > 4) Miles Davis - On The Corner Progressive alternate-universe-to-James-Brown

Re: musical genres

2003-05-05 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
Beast 4) Miles Davis - On The Corner 5) Leonard Bernstein- Mass Did that get any easier? - Original Message - From: "I. Oppenheim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "World music from a Jewish slant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 3:26 AM Subject:

Re: An Israelite Odyssey - Review of Koby Israelite's "Dance of

2003-05-04 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
Of course there are, but one needs to recognize that what goes into each one depends on someone's arbitrary opinion. But just for fun, let's play a little game. Genre-classify the following five artists: Salim Halali The Klezmatics Don Van Vliet (Captain Beefheart) Miles Davis (make sure you includ

Re: An Israelite Odyssey - Review of Koby Israelite's "Dance of

2003-05-04 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
> Why is "genre classification" silly? Because it forces listeners to 'pgeonhole' music based on their expectations. - Original Message - From: "r l reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "r l reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "World music from a Jewish slant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, May 04,

Re: Four Quesions on Am Yisroel Chai

2003-05-01 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
>Are you saying that the same tune appears in Scott’s work?   Yes. The 'Od avinu chai' part. - Original Message - From: Gavriel Bellino To: World music from a Jewish slant Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 5:38 PM Subject: RE: Four Quesions on Am Yisroel Chai

Re: Four Quesions on Am Yisroel Chai

2003-05-01 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
Well since Raymond Scott's 'Dinner Music for a Pack of Hungry Cannibals' dates from 1937 and has the same theme let's just assume that Reb Shlomo picked it up subconsciously. - Original Message - From: Richard Green To: World music from a Jewish slant Sent: Thursda

Re: Four Quesions on Am Yisroel Chai

2003-04-28 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
'Am Yisroel Chai' is Raymond Scott's 'Dinner Music for a Pack of Hungry Cannibals'- but I have NO idea which came first. ek - Original Message - From: "Gavriel Bellino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "World music from a Jewish slant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> S

Re: Wagner and Liszt

2003-03-09 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
For those of us who don't speak German, what's 'ueberlistet'? - Original Message - From: "I. Oppenheim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "World music from a Jewish slant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 2:56 PM Subject: Re: Wagner and Liszt > On Sun, 9 Mar 2003, Alex J. Lubet wr

Re: bernstein

2003-03-02 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
I'm only mentioning this since the discussion has turned in this direction: I heard the Mass when it came out- when I was around Bar Mitzvah age. It was a piece of music that, literally, changed my life- an absolute mind-opener. And it succeeded so fabulously as a fusion of the rock and clas

Re: The Western Wall (Kol Isha)

2003-03-02 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
>Some consider it singing. You'd have to be pretty tone deaf to consider that 'singing' ;-) ek - Original Message - From: "Alex Jacobowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "World music from a Jewish slant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 02

Re: Wagner and friends

2003-03-02 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
>We do not believe in "that > man". Obviously not. > In reply to Eliezer, no, maybe just curtail this a bit. I have written > "Sarei haTikshoret" about the Masses. Even if one were to hold that this is > not avodah zara mamash, this is still not for us. Unless you're Leonard Bernstein writing on

Re: Wagner and friends

2003-03-02 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
y, March 01, 2003 6:37 PM Subject: Re: Wagner and friends > > > *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** > > On 28/02/2003 at 05:42 Alex Jacobowitz wrote: > > >--- Eliezer Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> (BTW AFAIK Christianity is NOT considered Avodah >

Re: Wagner and friends

2003-02-28 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
>but it is > kosher to play all those wonderful masses and cantatas that are avodah zarah > mamash? Hey David- you trying to start another one of these silly debates or something? ;-) (BTW AFAIK Christianity is NOT considered Avodah Zarah and according to the Talmud the desire to do true Avodah

Re: It´s not Götterdämmerung til the fat Ish a sings

2003-02-26 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
> to because of his prejudices. yet virtually NO ONE > raises their voices when anything by orff is > performed, when the man was not just adopted by nazis Likewise Richard 'Zarathustra' Strauss. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -+ Hosted by Shamash: The Jewish Network

Re: Miriam's Song

2003-02-23 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
>It's impossible to deal with all >of them on a discussion list that was formerly >dedicated to Jewish music... Uh-huh. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -+ Hosted by Shamash: The Jewish Network http://shamash.org A service of Hebrew College, which offers online cou

Re: Miriam's Song & Rav Berman

2003-02-23 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
- Original Message - From: "I. Oppenheim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "World music from a Jewish slant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 6:04 AM Subject: Miriam's Song & Rav Berman > On Sat, 22 Feb 2003, Eliezer Kaplan wrote: > &

Re: Miriam's Song

2003-02-23 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
Wasn't that how this all started? Lahem is a masculine form. - Original Message - From: "avi finegold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "World music from a Jewish slant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 6:50 PM Subject: Re: Miriam

Re: Miriam's Song

2003-02-23 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
arned > out that miriam and the women were singing (which by > the way demonstrates clearly that the torah permits > women to sing), all that is mentioned in the verse is > the word "vata'an" which translates as she responded. > hm > > > avi > > >

Re: Miriam's Song

2003-02-21 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
Since (the text of) Miriam's song echoes verse 1 of the chapter, one may speculate that there was call and response between the men and the women.                                     ek   - Original Message - From: Marvin Margoshes To: World music from a Jewish slant

Re: kol isha in action

2003-02-21 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
I apologize if you found it condescending- it was meant to be funny. - Original Message - From: "avi finegold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "World music from a Jewish slant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 10:19 AM Subject: Re: kol isha in

Re: kol isha in action

2003-02-21 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
m: "avi finegold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "World music from a Jewish slant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 10:17 AM Subject: Re: kol isha in action > > --- Eliezer Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > according to orthodoxy

Re: kol isha in action

2003-02-21 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
en necessary would be a more constructive approach then being dismissive. Cheers, Dan On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Eliezer Kaplan wrote: Love, Rosa Parks Maybe that's what's gotta happen. Maybe some community needs to have it in their face an

Re: kol isha in action

2003-02-21 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
think its a wonderful or > > terrible > > >halacha im just saying that some people (regardless > > of > > >their personal viewpoint about the halacha as > > well), > > >abide by it and its not right to state that they > > are > > >in the wrong j

Re: kol isha in action

2003-02-20 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
not a problem, > understanding what these are and being able to present them when necessary > would be a more constructive approach then being dismissive. > > Cheers, > > Dan > > On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Eliezer Kaplan wrote: > > > > Love, > > > > > &

Re: kol isha in action

2003-02-20 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
> Love, > > Rosa Parks > Maybe that's what's gotta happen. Maybe some community needs to have it in their face and take it upon themselves to realize that in our times living in our world this is ridiculous and to set a precedent for changing the custom. And why do I feel so much like that old Ste

Re: more reviews

2003-02-20 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
Yeah- I would think reveiws of Maxwell St. (or any other cool Jewish band) are absolutely relevant. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: World music from a Jewish slant Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 11:48 AM Subject: Re: more reviews In a mes

Raymond Scott

2003-02-09 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
Does anyone else hear 'yiddish swing' in the music of Raymond Scott (Quintette) or am I just imagining it? (Yes we know Raymond Scott is Harry Warnow- son of Russian immigrants born in Brooklyn .) And does anyone know anything about the realtionship between 'Dinner Music for a Pack of Hungry

Re: unscribe me from this list

2003-01-31 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
>and all others like it.   Sure, um... right away. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: World music from a Jewish slant Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 6:04 PM Subject: Re: unscribe me from this list please remove me from your mail list an

Re: The Israeli music scene and cross-over artists

2003-01-30 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
Um- traditions I meant being Arabic and Israeli. - Original Message - From: Eliezer Kaplan To: World music from a Jewish slant Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 6:01 PM Subject: Re: The Israeli music scene and cross-over artists >And-to my e

Re: The Israeli music scene and cross-over artists

2003-01-30 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
>And-to my ears, there isn't much that separates these artists musically-their music has its roots in the musical traditions of the Arab world and the Eastern Mediterranean,   Well you have to get to Salim Halali and Cheikh Raymond as 'missing' links between the traditions (and many others

Re: boycotts

2003-01-22 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
Totally relevant, since it is something happening in a musician's union.                                                 ek - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: World music from a Jewish slant Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 10:55 AM Subject: Re:

Re: ban on all Israeli musicians to be debated Monday by British

2003-01-19 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
You just have to hope that the majority of British musicians would understand the implications of voting for the ban. ek - Original Message - From: "Sandra Layman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "World music from a Jewish slant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sen

Re: AABACA (was Finale, Sibelius, etc.)

2003-01-17 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
bject: Re: AABACA (was Finale, Sibelius, etc.) > Dear Listers, > > In a message dated 1/16/03 9:45:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > >Eliezer Kaplan asked about the ad for Finale at a lesser price - was it > > > >full-feature, and wasn't there something for

Re: Finale, Sibelius, LilyPond, etc.

2003-01-16 Thread Eliezer Kaplan
OK. I've never seen either of these programs in action, but after hearing of Sibelius from a friend & then reading about it here I went and checked out their web site. I was all ready to just buy the thing and then I saw the $600 price tag. Now the ad you saw for Finale- was that a full-feat