Re: [Jmol-users] replacement by a picture

2013-08-18 Thread Angel Herráez
I'm not sure I understand the css/printing business. Me either, but Pshemak said he wanted a substitute image for the printed version, and seemed to imply that the regular model does not print. What I am seeing is indeed that the browser prints the HTML5 version all fine. For the Java applet

Re: [Jmol-users] replacement by a picture

2013-08-18 Thread Pshemak Maslak
On 8/18/2013 6:18 AM, Angel Herráez wrote: I'm not sure I understand the css/printing business. Me either, but Pshemak said he wanted a substitute image for the printed version, and seemed to imply that the regular model does not print. What I am seeing is indeed that the browser prints

Re: [Jmol-users] replacement by a picture

2013-08-17 Thread Angel Herráez
Pschemak, Regarding your show image when printing question: 1.- My Firefox does print the contents of JSmol correctly. 2.- WIth HTML5-JSmol you can easily use the cover image option. Then, to have that being printed in the place of the Jmol object you can use these CSS rules: @media print {

Re: [Jmol-users] replacement by a picture

2013-08-17 Thread Robert Hanson
I'm not sure I understand the css/printing business. The JSmol/HTML5 prints directly. It's not set up for use with JSmol/Java. On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 7:04 AM, Angel Herráez angel.herr...@uah.es wrote: I found a better solution that works both with HTML5-JSmol and Java-Jmol, and does not

Re: [Jmol-users] replacement by a picture

2013-08-16 Thread Angel Herráez
Pschemak, it might be the same approach. However, detecting Java is now unreliable. The situations where Java is installed but disabled are difficult, if not impossible, to detect. Regarding non-compatible devices, you can detect some checking the navigator or userAgent, but that is ot totally

Re: [Jmol-users] replacement by a picture

2013-08-16 Thread Rolf Huehne
On 08/16/2013 01:48 AM, Pshemak Maslak wrote: Thanks, these are examples of how to hide Jmol/JSmol before (or during) the loading of the app. I am after a situation where Jmol/JSmol is normally displayed on page load for all of those who have Java/JS on their device, but a substitute picture

Re: [Jmol-users] replacement by a picture

2013-08-16 Thread Robert Hanson
Ah, right. You want something automatic. Is that it? Bad news: There is absolutely no way any more to discover upon page loading whether Java is installed and not blocked. It just isn't possible. The only recourse is to explicitly provide links to two versions of your page and let people choose.

[Jmol-users] replacement by a picture

2013-08-15 Thread Pshemak Maslak
What are the best strategies to have Jmol or JSmol instances replaced with a static picture when the browser does not have Java or java script enabled or is on a device that is not capable of handling Jmol/Jsmol? How can one do the same for for printing browser pages? Thanks, PM

Re: [Jmol-users] replacement by a picture

2013-08-15 Thread Robert Hanson
Pschemak, You can see this in operation at http://ispcsrv.weizmann.ac.il/a2jmolb/browse. Just click on one of the JSmol icons Or go here: http://ispcsrv.weizmann.ac.il/a2jmolb/browse?ip=824e0a1df426f51eed2a5873a5b1978b;set=testSet;jsmolUSE=HTML5 for a single example. This works by setting a

Re: [Jmol-users] replacement by a picture

2013-08-15 Thread Pshemak Maslak
Thanks, these are examples of how to hide Jmol/JSmol before (or during) the loading of the app. I am after a situation where Jmol/JSmol is normally displayed on page load for all of those who have Java/JS on their device, but a substitute picture is displayed for those who do no not, or when