RE: should a resume have a "Reason for Leaving" line? general resume assessment request

2006-02-06 Thread Larson Rider
Adrian, You make some good points, but some of your absolutes aren't. Font, I agree with a 12 point for this resume due to a lot of white space, however 11 point is now common, even 10 point if there are large blocks of text. Font again. I find using the same type of font throughout to be very

Re: should a resume have a "Reason for Leaving" line? general resume assessment request

2006-02-06 Thread Adrian Howard
On 6 Feb 2006, at 16:29, Larson Rider wrote: Adrian, You make some good points, but some of your absolutes aren't. As I said "my personal biases" :-) That said, my doleful rants down the pub on the occasions when I've had to wade through CVs usually get grumbles of agreement from fellow

RE: should a resume have a "Reason for Leaving" line? general res ume assessment request

2006-02-06 Thread Todd Cranston-Cuebas
Interesting... I mostly read technical resumes and to tell you the truth, I could care less about length and/or type size as long as the information is relevant. I do agree that the first page has to have specific relevance to the job you are applying for. Tell me in a quick table if necessary how

RE: should a resume have a "Reason for Leaving" line? general resume assessment request

2006-02-06 Thread Larson Rider
Adrian, 1. Please note my "rules" about the first page and last five years. 2. I am referring to long experience resumes. 3. Generally 11 pt font is used to bring a resume to 3 or 2 pages. 10 point is used to get resume to one or two pages. _ Larson J. Rider Prid

Re: should a resume have a "Reason for Leaving" line? general res ume assessment request

2006-02-06 Thread José Castro
* Todd Cranston-Cuebas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Interesting... I mostly read technical resumes and to tell you the truth, I > could care less about length and/or type size as long as the information is > relevant. Quite frankly, I think these issues have to do with the quantity of resumes you

Re: should a resume have a "Reason for Leaving" line? general resume assessment request

2006-02-06 Thread Adrian Howard
On 6 Feb 2006, at 16:58, Larson Rider wrote: [snip] 3. Generally 11 pt font is used to bring a resume to 3 or 2 pages. 10 point is used to get resume to one or two pages. [snip] The right way to reduce a resume to one to two pages is to cut material - not reduce the font size. The reason for

RE: should a resume have a "Reason for Leaving" line? general res ume assessment request

2006-02-06 Thread Todd Cranston-Cuebas
Jose, I agree. I read thousands of resumes a week and they're all for technical positions. My goal may be different than others... I want strong, solid tech geeks who will work reliably in our organization. I find most strong technical people have a strong bias against putting their information i

Re: should a resume have a "Reason for Leaving" line? general res ume assessment request

2006-02-06 Thread Adrian Howard
On 6 Feb 2006, at 16:55, Todd Cranston-Cuebas wrote: Interesting... I mostly read technical resumes and to tell you the truth, I could care less about length and/or type size as long as the information is relevant. Yeah - me too (as long as I can read the darn thing). However, I usually

RE: should a resume have a "Reason for Leaving" line? general resume assessment request

2006-02-06 Thread Larson Rider
Todd. excellent points. I agree, The synopsis I speak of is a very short paragraph telling the reader what they are about to read and guiding them to your strengths. One pet peeve I have about resumes is when a technology list is used and the technology is not re expressed in the resume. Makes th

RE: should a resume have a "Reason for Leaving" line? general res ume assessment request

2006-02-06 Thread Todd Cranston-Cuebas
Larson, I totally agree about the skills list. Just listing a skill without telling me: 1). what you did with it 2). when you did it 3). what level of proficiency you performed this skill is meaningless. I like to see a "3D resume." If you mention "I've worked within a large data center environ

RE: should a resume have a "Reason for Leaving" line? general resume assessment request

2006-02-06 Thread Larson Rider
Todd, I agree that a list should be brief and should be repeated in the body of the resume. I like the list to have skill levels next to the skills with years of experience, but I hate the whole frat page to be devoted to such a list. I have found most hiring managers love my short cover letters

RE: should a resume have a "Reason for Leaving" line? general resume assessment request

2006-02-06 Thread Larson Rider
Terrence, I just saw your original post. You don't need a reason for leaving on your resume, but in this case it would not have hurt. I often see contractor resumes with reasons for leaving included. However, IMO your recruiter did not do their job. They should have anticipated the question. Then

Re: should a resume have a "Reason for Leaving" line? general res ume assessment request

2006-02-06 Thread Andy Lester
As I've said, I personally really dislike cover letters but maybe that's just me. I want a cover letter that tells me that the person has read the ad, and is responding TO ME, about MY AD. It's a letter, not a stock piece of paper. For example: Dear Mr. Lester, My colleague Bill Odom

RE: should a resume have a "Reason for Leaving" line? general res ume assessment request

2006-02-06 Thread Larson Rider
Nice cover letter. Lars -Original Message- From: Andy Lester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 1:25 PM To: Todd Cranston-Cuebas Cc: Larson Rider; Adrian Howard; L-Perl-Jobs-Discuss Subject: Re: should a resume have a "Reason for Leaving" line? general res ume

Re: should a resume have a "Reason for Leaving" line? general res ume assessment request

2006-02-06 Thread Anthony Ettinger
I personally don't bother with 'em. Unless their short two sentence description.I jump right to "Ctrl+F" to find what I'm looking for when I screen a candidate. It's mostly bs anyway, and when you're screening for a technical position, you never know what you're gonna get. On 2/6/06, Andy Lester <[

Re: should a resume have a "Reason for Leaving" line? general res ume assessment request

2006-02-06 Thread Andy Lester
I jump right to "Ctrl+F" to find what I'm looking for when I screen a candidate. It's mostly bs anyway, and when you're screening for a technical position, you never know what you're gonna get. That's right! They ARE mostly BS! That's why writing one that specifically speaks to the posi

Re: should a resume have a "Reason for Leaving" line? general res ume assessment request

2006-02-06 Thread Anthony Ettinger
I haven't applied for a job in probably 5 years, so I'm probably out of the loop.On 2/6/06, Andy Lester < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> I jump right to "Ctrl+F" to find what I'm looking for when I screen > a candidate. It's mostly bs anyway, and when you're screening for a> technical position, you ne

RE: should a resume have a "Reason for Leaving" line? general res ume assessment request

2006-02-06 Thread Larson Rider
Anthony,   I should have scrolled up before replying.   Every time I went through the job hunting, interviewing and being hired process, I gained a lot of compassion for applicants and humility about my own studliness.   Lars   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf O

Re: cover letter

2006-02-06 Thread Tom Metro
Todd Cranston-Cuebas wrote: As I've said, I personally really dislike cover letters but maybe that's just me. I want it all wrapped up in a simple package (i.e., the resume). I have only had a few people do this, but I really like getting a side-by-side breakdown of what I asked for and what they

Re: cover letter

2006-02-06 Thread Ask Bjørn Hansen
On Feb 6, 2006, at 2:36 PM, Tom Metro wrote: I've never found much use for cover letters on either the hiring or applying side of things. I think they are an antiquated formality that doesn't really fit with the modern way that job applications are handled online. Isn't the "modern equiv

RE: cover letter

2006-02-06 Thread Larson Rider
Bjorn, Yes it is and that's exactly how I do what I call a presentation. I left off stating availability, job hunt status and salary expectation off the presentation. Definitely state your interview and start availability and job hunt status, particularly if you think you have an offer pending.