[jquery-dev] Re: IE6: alive, well and prosperous

2009-07-31 Thread Kevin Dalman
> > This is getting silly. The last thing I want to do is support > > Netscape 6. > > The context was legacy systems. And the decision what to > support or not is always here to make. Yes, it was people 'stuck' with Window 2000 or other OS that cannot run any IE past 6. And your 'suggestion' was:

[jquery-dev] Re: IE6: alive, well and prosperous

2009-07-28 Thread uicoded
> This is getting silly. The last thing I want to do is support Netscape > 6. The context was legacy systems. And the decision what to support or not is always here to make. > When IE5/6 were created, HTML 4.01, DOM2 and CSS 2.1 *did not exist*. IE5 - 1999, IE6 - 2001 HTML 4.01 - 1999 CSS2 - 1

[jquery-dev] Re: IE6: alive, well and prosperous

2009-07-28 Thread uicoded
well said. On Jul 17, 12:41 pm, Nathan Bubna wrote: > No one suggested not supporting IE in general, and supporting IE6 is > not at all a binary decision, as you begin to hint toward the end. > There are plenty of ways to cleanly offer reduced functionality.  It > is quite professional for any w

[jquery-dev] Re: IE6: alive, well and prosperous

2009-07-21 Thread Gilles
> Then Microsoft is unprofessional. Take .doc from 97 and 2003, their > own proprietary > format, not backward compatible. MS says to OWN customers upgrade > (pay) or get > screwed. HTML is not proprietary, has no lifecycle (HTML 4.01, DOM2, > CSS2.1 - it is still there) > MS doesn't have balls fo

[jquery-dev] Re: IE6: alive, well and prosperous

2009-07-18 Thread Kevin Dalman
> IE6 is not the only browser. Get some older versions of Opera, > Netscape This is getting silly. The last thing I want to do is support Netscape 6. > HTML is not proprietary, has no lifecycle (HTML 4.01, DOM2, > CSS2.1 - it is still there) > MS doesn't have balls for open competition. Only thi

[jquery-dev] Re: IE6: alive, well and prosperous

2009-07-17 Thread uicoded
On Jul 17, 12:02 pm, Gilles wrote: > Stop supporting IE or even just IE6 would be very unprofessional, it's > not a question of balls, it's a question of professionalism.  Not > supporting IE doesn't damage IE in any way, it's the end user that get > all the problems. Then Microsoft is unprofess

[jquery-dev] Re: IE6: alive, well and prosperous

2009-07-17 Thread Nathan Bubna
No one suggested not supporting IE in general, and supporting IE6 is not at all a binary decision, as you begin to hint toward the end. There are plenty of ways to cleanly offer reduced functionality. It is quite professional for any web developer to do cost/benefit analysis on various levels of

[jquery-dev] Re: IE6: alive, well and prosperous

2009-07-17 Thread Matt Kruse
On Jul 16, 10:41 pm, tres wrote: > Maybe the IT industry should just grow some balls and stop supporting > IE6, or IE in general. The the industry has everything to gain and > nothing to lose by severing all ties to IE. People will be forced to > indulge in a newer, better, faster and more secure

[jquery-dev] Re: IE6: alive, well and prosperous

2009-07-17 Thread Gilles
Stop supporting IE or even just IE6 would be very unprofessional, it's not a question of balls, it's a question of professionalism. Not supporting IE doesn't damage IE in any way, it's the end user that get all the problems. Some company keep using IE6 not always because their employees can't up

[jquery-dev] Re: IE6: alive, well and prosperous

2009-07-16 Thread tres
Maybe the IT industry should just grow some balls and stop supporting IE6, or IE in general. The the industry has everything to gain and nothing to lose by severing all ties to IE. People will be forced to indulge in a newer, better, faster and more secure browser. --~--~-~--~~

[jquery-dev] Re: IE6: alive, well and prosperous

2009-07-16 Thread DBJDBJ
http://blog.digg.com/?p=878 --DBJ On Jul 17, 12:16 am, Briz wrote: > I was consulting at Farmers Insurance a while back and managed to "infect" > the organization with Firefox > usinghttp://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable > Works great. Allows unprivileged users to install Fire

[jquery-dev] Re: IE6: alive, well and prosperous

2009-07-16 Thread Briz
I was consulting at Farmers Insurance a while back and managed to "infect" the organization with Firefox using http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable Works great. Allows unprivileged users to install Firefox right on their desktops, completely bypassing IT's restrictions. __

[jquery-dev] Re: IE6: alive, well and prosperous

2009-07-16 Thread Andrew Hedges
Why they don't just install Firefox alongside IE6 and instruct people to only use IE6 for those few, antiquated systems is beyond me. On Jul 16, 10:53 am, DBJDBJ wrote: > http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/262087/government-admits-no-ie6-upgrade-u... > > --DBJ --~--~-~--~~~