Re: [JSMentors] Re: When we'll have a good IDE for JavaScript?

2011-01-28 Thread Peter Thiessen
Here's yet another IDE to try: Sublime http://www.sublimetext.com/2 A MacOSX client of Sublime2 is now available in Beta. I've also recently been using Aptana but I must say, I'm impressed with the minimalistic style of Sublime2 and the attention to detail on the included features (good UX).

Re: [JSMentors] Re: When we'll have a good IDE for JavaScript?

2011-01-28 Thread Acaz Souza Pereira
I think a good editor will include things like: - a autocomplete for general statements, e.g.: put FOR and press ENTER, the FOR statement will create automtically with some generically code with braces and you will change like you want, this will valid for all statement, create a IF, WHILE, a

Re: [JSMentors] Re: When we'll have a good IDE for JavaScript?

2011-01-28 Thread Max Vasiliev
It looks like an advanced text editor, not an IDE. I.e. it doesn't have any debugging features, can't do any refactorings, doesn't have true autocomplete. On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Peter Thiessen thiess...@gmail.com wrote: Here's yet another IDE to try: Sublime

Re: [JSMentors] Re: When we'll have a good IDE for JavaScript?

2011-01-28 Thread Max Vasiliev
IDE stands for Integrated Development Environment, and (IMHO) must have source code editor, build automation tools, debugger and VCS integration. So neither Textmate nor Sublime not an IDE. Both only source code editors. On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Peter Higgins da...@dojotoolkit.org wrote:

Re: [JSMentors] Re: When we'll have a good IDE for JavaScript?

2011-01-28 Thread Peter van der Zee
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Peter Higgins da...@dojotoolkit.orgwrote: On 1/28/11 8:50 AM, Max Vasiliev wrote: It looks like an advanced text editor, not an IDE. I.e. it doesn't have any debugging features, can't do any refactorings, doesn't have true autocomplete. Seems like a blurry

Re: [JSMentors] Re: When we'll have a good IDE for JavaScript?

2011-01-28 Thread Max Vasiliev
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Peter van der Zee jsment...@qfox.nl wrote: Webstorm/Jetbrains scores very high, but the author plainly _refuses_ to even discuss making the auto-save feature of the IDE optional. With that thing on, I won't even consider buying it. Yep, autosave was very

RE: [JSMentors] Re: When we'll have a good IDE for JavaScript?

2011-01-28 Thread Joel Dart
For me personally, I can't code without code folding. But that's nowadays part of most text editors as well, one way or the other. Visual studio otoh has an epic fail in this regard. If you have VS2010, you can actually get code folding as part of the JScript Editor Extensions:

[JSMentors] Re: When we'll have a good IDE for JavaScript?

2011-01-28 Thread jmulligan
Actually I know only two IDEs for javascript comparable to VS2010 for C#: .. Check out Komodo IDE. It's XULRunner based so it's on every platform, extremely lightweight and you can choose which APIs auto-complete. It does the standard IDE stuff like custom test plans, etc. I like it's visual

[JSMentors] Re: When we'll have a good IDE for JavaScript?

2011-01-28 Thread Claus Reinke
About the difference between IDEs and programmable programmers' editors: my problems with the former are that (a) they almost always neglect their editor component (lots of features, if you're lucky; but what good is that if everyday editing tasks are a pain, require

[JSMentors] Vim for Javascript development (Was: When we'll have a good IDE for JavaScript?)

2011-01-28 Thread Claus Reinke
Nice to see some Vim users here. Perhaps we could share tips for tuning Vim for Javascript development? I have lots of experience configuring Vim for Haskell, but have just started on configuring it for Javascript. Here are a couple that might not be obvious: - while Vim supports tag files

Re: [JSMentors] Re: Javascript file organisation

2011-01-28 Thread Brian Wigginton
Here is how i like to do it. js thirdparty jquery jquery-ui app view view1.js view2.js presenter presenter1.js presenter2.js model model1.js model2.js templates template1.html template2.html utils