Re: [JSMentors] JavaScript quirks for teachers

2012-01-19 Thread Peter van der Zee
I'm with gamera here. While tools are certain something you should touch on, for training/workshops you should not embed them as part of assignments or anything. They should know about them and what they do but not have to listen to them. Use them as learning tools, not governing tools. - peter O

Re: [JSMentors] JavaScript quirks for teachers

2012-01-14 Thread Lars Gunther
We are getting into a discussion more related to pedagogics than any factual problems in my text. First of all, the text is not a lesson plan nor is it supposed toe be a complete overview of every JavaScript quirk. If anyone is interested, work has been progressing, with many good suggestion

Re: [JSMentors] JavaScript quirks for teachers

2012-01-13 Thread Jared Hirsch
Hmm, at the risk of sounding a little flamey, I disagree. If you aren't going to blow students away with something like SICP, you might as well equip them to experience the joy and pain of building real products. I'd even suggest you have them release code on day one of class via heroku or no.de,

Re: [JSMentors] JavaScript quirks for teachers

2012-01-13 Thread gamera
I am against the use of linter in the context of teaching. Linters are tools to aid production, in the context of teams with differently skilled developers. Teaching should be more about facts, and not shortcuts. The ECMA-262 standard is a better source of information, IHMO, or the excellent ser

Re: [JSMentors] JavaScript quirks for teachers

2012-01-12 Thread Dean Landolt
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Lars Gunther wrote: > Hi again > > It seems I have evangelized quite a few fellow teachers in Sweden that > JavaScript makes a good first language when learning how to program. > > However, most teachers have been using Java, C++, PHP or VB + some Pyhon > and C#.

[JSMentors] JavaScript quirks for teachers

2012-01-12 Thread Lars Gunther
Hi again It seems I have evangelized quite a few fellow teachers in Sweden that JavaScript makes a good first language when learning how to program. However, most teachers have been using Java, C++, PHP or VB + some Pyhon and C#. When they start to teach JavaScript they will encounter stuff