Re: [jug-discussion] Tuesday, August 11: Grails+JSON+GWT: Or, how I learned to stop worrying and love Google

2009-08-03 Thread Andrew Lenards
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:30 AM, William H. Mitchell < wh...@mitchellsoftwareengineering.com> wrote: > In an epic presentation that will surely be talked about for minutes, if > not hours after its completion, Travis will share his experiences, lessons > learned and some advice. Always a glutton fo

Re: [jug-discussion] git bisect

2009-07-30 Thread Andrew Lenards
I knew there was a `git bisect` command mention in the "git cheat sheet" we used for the JUG talk on Git in September 2008, but I didn't realize it would do what you were looking for! That's cool. On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 10:02 PM, William H. Mitchell < wh...@mitchellsoftwareengineering.com> wrote

Re: [jug-discussion] 502 status

2009-06-02 Thread Andrew Lenards
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Warner Onstine wrote: > Yeah, Tim was fine with having the JUG down there, if that's what > people want I can contact him to put it on the schedule. People should sound-off on this so we get an idea. I'm for it ... +1 > In other news I want to move the JUG si

Re: [jug-discussion] 502 status

2009-06-02 Thread Andrew Lenards
I'm pretty sure a NFJS speaker will be coming. Likely Brain Sam-Bodden since he calls Phoenix home now. But they usually wait until July to send us a speaker. (Jay Zimmerman is on the list - so I'm sure our discussion will prompt a reply) Eric - that would mean that we don't have a speaker (I'm

[jug-discussion] 502 status

2009-05-30 Thread Andrew Lenards
I was curious who was presenting in June (or *if* there would be a preso) and it looks like tucson-jug.org is down, it's giving 502s.

[jug-discussion] Hudson?

2009-05-20 Thread Andrew Lenards
Is anyone using Hudson (it's an extensible continuous integration engine)? Has anyone played with it? https://hudson.dev.java.net/ I just noticed that Apache is using it.

[jug-discussion] Desert Code Camp - coming up... June 13

2009-05-16 Thread Andrew Lenards
I have yet to make it to one of these - but Jay Zimmerman always mentions them at NFJS: http://desertcodecamp.com/ I think there is one in the summer and one in the fall. If any has attended and has some feedback - that would be appreciated. I'm still looking over the sessions and deciding if I

Re: [jug-discussion] If you started a web project on the JVM today...

2009-04-30 Thread Andrew Lenards
ner > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Warner Onstine wrote: > > Grails, with Flex and CouchDB. > > > > -warner > > > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Andrew Lenards > > wrote: > >> I'm curious for the opinion of the list. If you sta

[jug-discussion] Re: If you started a web project on the JVM today...

2009-04-30 Thread Andrew Lenards
I forgot to include that it would run on the JVM =) On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Andrew Lenards wrote: > I'm curious for the opinion of the list. If you started a project to build > a web application today, what would you Java technology-stack be? > > >

[jug-discussion] If you started a web project on the JVM today...

2009-04-30 Thread Andrew Lenards
I'm curious for the opinion of the list. If you started a project to build a web application today, what would you Java technology-stack be?

[jug-discussion] Jython - alive (again)

2009-04-21 Thread Andrew Lenards
http://www.jython.org/Project/ I thought I'd toss out there that the Jython project was revived on March 9, 2009 with the beta release of Jython covering the 2.5 version Python (ironically my first day as a Python dev was on March 9). I know this will at least make Rick Hightower happy to hear (i

Re: [jug-discussion] gotta get serious here

2009-02-16 Thread Andrew Lenards
they have horribly sophomoric covers (which are just stock photos) - but you might consider "Head First Java", the last version I believe came out in 2005 - so I think won't be up-to-date with 1.6 ... but if you're building a foundation, the book would likely work to get that solidified... and then

[jug-discussion] Screen origin date (and link to guide mentioned last night)

2009-01-14 Thread Andrew Lenards
For those curious, GNU Screen started development around 1995 according to a "dubious" reference on the wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen They were going off the dates on the GNU ftp site: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/screen/ It's over a year old, but it popped up again on news.y

Re: [jug-discussion] Jug dinner

2008-12-11 Thread Andrew Lenards
ACK +1 On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:13 AM, TR wrote: > > The Jug Holiday meeting will be Tuesday, 12/16 at 6:pm at feast. > > RSVP is a must, reply here, only if coming please! > > TR >

Re: [jug-discussion] Any News on the Holiday Party?

2008-12-08 Thread Andrew Lenards
12/16 works for me On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 8:55 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > sounds good to me. I haven't even been to one of the discussions yet, > but... hey... a party? > > Respectfully, > Liz, Data Base Administrator, > Methods Engineering > > > > > *Andrew Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [jug-discussion] Any News on the Holiday Party?

2008-12-05 Thread Andrew Lenards
Warner, I figured not seeing any replying about plans sort of meant that everyone is busy (which is *totally* understandable, given the season, everyone's jobs, etc etc). So I hadn't really planned on setting aside time to attend. Andy On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Andrew Lenar

Re: [jug-discussion] Any News on the Holiday Party?

2008-12-04 Thread Andrew Lenards
ote: > > If it is possible to do it on another night I would love to attend. > > > > -warner > > > > On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Andrew Lenards > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I see it listed on the site, but no details.

[jug-discussion] Any News on the Holiday Party?

2008-12-01 Thread Andrew Lenards
I see it listed on the site, but no details. It's almost a week away so I thought I'd ask if there are plans in the works?

Re: [jug-discussion] Lisp turns 50 this month

2008-10-10 Thread Andrew Lenards
I'd be interested... I saw John McCarthy talk at OOPSLA in Montreal last year. On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Andrew Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hmmm, > We could celebrate with a presentation on LISP. I would be interested at > least. > > Andy > > On Oct 9, 2008, at 7:21 PM, Thomas Hicks

[jug-discussion] Mining the Mailing List for Use Cases and Scenarios

2008-08-13 Thread Andrew Lenards
First off - thanks to everyone that attended last night. I thought the questions were great - I really appreciated that. Tom (Michaud) & I were discussing preparing for the follow-up to Git-Together. We were thinking that it would improve the meeting if we formulated some use cases and/or scenar

[jug-discussion] JUG Talk Topics Ideas

2008-08-13 Thread Andrew Lenards
Since myself, Tom, and William have penciled ourselves in for September, I was thinking it would be good to throw out ideas and see if anyone would be interesting in presenting for October and/or November? http://tucson-jug.org/display/TJUG/Topic+Ideas We've had some Groovy talks, I know people a

Re: [jug-discussion] JUG meeting August 12 will be a Git-together

2008-08-12 Thread Andrew Lenards
uation with the interactive portion. After the discussion and such, there are some great use cases to check out. On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Chad Woolley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Andrew Lenards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > The JUG m

Re: [jug-discussion] Git question

2008-08-12 Thread Andrew Lenards
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 12:57 PM, Chad Woolley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > Great, thanks for researching this. I wonder what is the best > approach to try. Ideally, I'd like to do it with git submodules, > which would be pure-git, no external libs required. However, I'm not > sure if there wo

Re: [jug-discussion] Git question

2008-08-12 Thread Andrew Lenards
Chad, On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 11:12 PM, Andrew Lenards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Here is a blog post I did recently on other other thing that is really >> preventing me from moving to Git for all my projects: >> >> >> http://pivots.pivotallabs.com/users/chad

Re: [jug-discussion] Git question

2008-08-10 Thread Andrew Lenards
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 10:28 PM, Chad Woolley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Thanks Andrew. I suspected that was the case. Thanks for doing the > research for me so I didn't have to do it myself. Seems like an > egregious hack, an oversight in the high-level Git architecture, or > lack of foresig

Re: [jug-discussion] Git question

2008-08-10 Thread Andrew Lenards
Chad - that's totally bizarre... based on the tutorials and cheat sheet I have, you remove a branch form a repo with the following: `git branch -d $branch` There is a pretty active git channel on irc.freenode.org - I asked about this and here's the explanation I got. `git push` is the only comm

[jug-discussion] Re: JUG meeting August 12 will be a Git-together

2008-08-07 Thread Andrew Lenards
and groups to make changes of various sorts, and use Git to incorporate (or not) the work of others. We'll have several laptops available, and you're welcome to bring yours, too. You can join in the fun, or just watch the action, or do little of both. The instigators of this event are

[jug-discussion] JUG meeting August 12 will be a Git-together

2008-08-07 Thread Andrew Lenards
and groups to make changes of various sorts, and use Git to incorporate (or not) the work of others. We'll have several laptops available, and you're welcome to bring yours, too. You can join in the fun, or just watch the action, or do little of both. The instigators of this event are

Re: [jug-discussion] git, mercurial or bazaar?

2008-07-07 Thread Andrew Lenards
I've been using Git with a personal project. I've been doing everything from command-line in hopes of learning the raw commands. I don't know if I can give it a full stamp of approval yet because I haven't done anything too involved (I haven't done a merge, etc). I believe there is an eclipse pl

Re: [jug-discussion] [7/8] Brian Sam-Bodden on Groovy Metaprogramming

2008-07-01 Thread Andrew Lenards
Speaking as the winner of the free ticket last year - I really enjoyed DSSS, I learned a ton and I'm footing my bill to attend this year. Thought I'd offer a shameless plug since I got lucky last year! On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Warner Onstine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, it's getting

Re: [jug-discussion] JUG Group for NFJS?

2008-06-30 Thread Andrew Lenards
Well - I was hoping that I say Jay Zimmerman post to our list, he might chime in with how need to sign up to get the group discount. Now that it looks like we've got enough. On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 7:00 AM, Tom Michaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please count me in! > > > On Sat, Jun 28, 2008

[jug-discussion] JUG Group for NFJS?

2008-06-26 Thread Andrew Lenards
Are we going to get a "group" together for NFJS? I know the early-bird deadline is looming. I'm planning on going. I know that Danny Mandel is looking to go. Previously, I believe 3 or 4 people said they would like to I'm just curious that the status is - and how do we sign-up such that we

[jug-discussion] Code Fun - or... Something for all that free time you don't have

2008-06-26 Thread Andrew Lenards
Having heard about the JUG scripting language shootout and such - I thought these links might interest people. Many of you may have seen these links, but I thought I'd toss them out so people could tell me about other communities/contests/programs (in other words, I'm fishing for more): http://co

Re: [jug-discussion] Groovy and JRuby

2008-06-08 Thread Andrew Lenards
I think Bashar's point is more accurately why I favor Groovy over JRuby. Sure - they both are integrated, etc etc. But in my current position - I'm a Java developer who would like to sneak in or slip through some dynamic language implementation of algorithms when helpful. I favor the Groovy synt

Re: [jug-discussion] Groovy and JRuby (was Re: [jug-discussion] next month's meeting)

2008-06-06 Thread Andrew Lenards
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 4:14 PM, William H. Mitchell < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Re getting together for a group discount for NFJS in Phoenix, count me in. I'm about, say, 70% committed to going this year. I really enjoyed it last year, so if we could get the price down from the early-bird spe

Re: [jug-discussion] Groovy and JRuby (was Re: [jug-discussion] next month's meeting)

2008-06-06 Thread Andrew Lenards
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Todd Ellermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What are your (collective) reasons for being more interested in Groovy > than JRuby? Just interested... > > The ruby switch hasn't clicked for me yet. I feel the same way about ruby as I do smalltalk, I know they're bo

Re: [jug-discussion] next month's meeting

2008-06-05 Thread Andrew Lenards
Groovy please. On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Thomas Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Groovy please. > -t > > At 01:58 PM 6/5/2008, you wrote: > > In preparation for the upcoming No Fluff Just Stuff Jay Zimmerman has > graciously offered us a speaker, Brian Sam-Bodden. He has voluntee

[jug-discussion] Startup Drinks - Tucson

2008-05-06 Thread Andrew Lenards
Hey - I wanted to let everyone know the first gathering of Tucson's chapter of Startup Drinks is meeting tonight at the Auld Dubliner around 6:30 pm. For specifics (location, parking, etc): http://tucson.startupdrinks.com/2008/04/18/may-6th-auld-dubliners-630pm/ JMatt Peterson had the idea to sta

Re: [jug-discussion] [4/8] Introduction to Scala

2008-04-03 Thread Andrew Lenards
I attended a BoF for Scala this year at ACM OOPSLA in Montreal. Scala creators had done a tutorial that had garnered some buzz and I was really happy to hear about the language and the activity. I've only played with it a bit - but I'm really looking forward to hearing Tom and Randy's perspective

[jug-discussion] Apache Commons Betwixt question

2008-01-31 Thread Andrew Lenards
Hi all, Does anyone have experience using the Commons API Betwixt? I'm running into an annoying little issue and was curious if I could get a little help (off-line). Thanks, Andy

Re: [jug-discussion] professional degree programs

2007-08-24 Thread Andrew Lenards
For good or ill - I'll toss in my $.02: I did recruitment for Archon/3M when I was there. I viewed a degree as a show of commitment - not necessarily a quantification of a candidate's background or skill-set or any of that. At the very least, you knew they jumped through the numerous hoops and c

Re: [jug-discussion] Hi guys.... Crank Crud Intro... JPA/JSF Crud tool

2007-08-11 Thread Andrew Lenards
gt; From: Erik Hatcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 4:46 AM > > To: Venkat Subramaniam > > Subject: Fwd: [jug-discussion] Hi guys Crank Crud Intro... JPA/ > > JSF Crud > > tool > > > > "ultrasound visualization&q

Re: [jug-discussion] Hi guys.... Crank Crud Intro... JPA/JSF Crud tool

2007-08-10 Thread Andrew Lenards
I found my notes - Venkat was talking about "code synthesis" vs code generation... then I have "ultrasound vision" written next that. For the life of me - I don't know why. I've searched around for these terms and RoR to no avail. I considered not even replying. Andy On 8/10/07, William H. Mit

Re: [jug-discussion] Hi guys.... Crank Crud Intro... JPA/JSF Crud tool

2007-08-10 Thread Andrew Lenards
Venkat Subramanian (at NFJS) was talking about a version of RoR that was like the scaffolding in grails (the classes/controllers are modeled in memory, like Bashar's snippet)... but AOP was used to override the behavior, so only the parts you wanted to change were actually code in concrete source f

Re: [jug-discussion] next language to learn?

2007-06-18 Thread Andrew Lenards
On 6/18/07, Thomas Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 3) Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs (2ed) by Harold Abelson and Gerald Jay Sussman. Not really *about* Scheme, uses Scheme for CS concepts. This is available online (free): http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text

Re: [jug-discussion] tasks that developers do when learning a new language?

2007-04-24 Thread Andrew Lenards
(my two-cents) When I'm learning a new language I use a set of problems that were presented to me in lectures when I took the Comparative Programming at UA. Stuart Reges taught it my semester. His problems were a good test of how concise you could program in that language (can you do quicksort

Re: [jug-discussion] how many tonight?

2007-04-10 Thread Andrew Lenards
I was hoping to make it - the hockey playoffs don't start until tomorrow =) so my night is open On 4/10/07, Warner Onstine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just curious how many people were going to come tonight for the discussion on Groovy. Nothing formal, just playing around with it, I can show som

Re: [jug-discussion] Meeting on for today?

2007-01-09 Thread Andrew Lenards
Phillip, Go to http://www.tucson-jug.org:8080 -- that's the confluence site, that's the active site. Andy On 1/9/07, Phillip Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, I'm new to the user group and plan to show up, however on the website it looks like the last notes are from 2005. Does this

Re: [jug-discussion] App Dev Framework choices

2006-06-22 Thread Andrew Lenards
There was a Smalltalk/Squeak web framework that got some noticed at OOPSLA 2004 called Seaside 2. I think there was a similar version done for Java called Lakeshore. On 6/22/06, Chad Woolley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 6/22/06, Thomas Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dr. Ralph Griswold (cre

Re: [jug-discussion] App Dev Framework choices

2006-06-21 Thread Andrew Lenards
To Rick: I really haven't had a chance to use either of the framework (Spring.NET nor NHibernate) but I've tracked their progress. I caught a podcast from one of the devs for Spring.NET and it sounded like they was a fair amount of interest in the project. NHibernate hit version 1 around the be

Re: [jug-discussion] Net Neutrality (techno-political)

2006-06-15 Thread Andrew Lenards
I spoked with Senator Kyl's office and left a message for Senator McCain. Took all of 5 minutes to do. I hope others are calling. I'm quite shocked this made it out of the House. Andy On 6/14/06, Nick Lesiecki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Heed Tom's words, get educated, and please let your sen

Re: [jug-discussion] any interest in an obj-c preso?

2006-01-23 Thread Andrew Lenards
interest++; On 1/23/06, josh zeidner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Warner, > > I would be interested in learning a bit about > Objective-C. > > Thanks, Josh Zeidner > > --- Warner Onstine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I know that this would probably be a limited > > audience as this is

[jug-discussion] Ruby On Rails vs. Java Spring/Hibernate

2005-04-04 Thread Andrew Lenards
I know everyone ends up picking up links on Slashdot - but I wanted to make sure this one didn't slip through the cracks: http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/05/04/04/1520227.shtml?tid=156&tid=1 I know Warner has mentioned Ruby On Rails many times - and perhaps the mention has not cau

[jug-discussion] Lakeshore - Java Web API inspired by Seaside2

2005-01-12 Thread Andrew Lenards
I mentioned Lakeshore and Seaside at tonight's meeting in relation to closures and continuations as a method for solving problems in a web api... this past ACM OOPSLA (http://oopsla.acm.org/) is where Seaside made a splash: http://nat.truemesh.com/archives/000422.html http://www.cincomsmalltalk.co