[JUG-Indonesia] ETL Tool

2010-02-28 Thread Hendry Luk
Guys, ada yang bisa suggest ETL tool di java? Preferably yang gak involve XML (I hate XMLs). Gw baru checked out scriptella, tapi pake xml dimana2 like we were in 1990s. ETL apa yg u would suggest? Ta

Re: [JUG-Indonesia] ETL Tool

2010-02-28 Thread Ifnu bima
> Guys, ada yang bisa suggest ETL tool di java? Preferably yang gak involve XML > (I hate XMLs). Gw baru checked out scriptella, tapi pake xml dimana2 like we > were in 1990s. > ETL apa yg u would suggest? Kettle, bagian dari pentahoo, ;) http://pentaho.phi-integration.com/kettle -- http://

Re: [JUG-Indonesia] ETL Tool

2010-02-28 Thread dir dir
Boleh tanya mengapa anda benci XML dalam kaitan nya dengan ETL? apa problem yang anda hadapi sampai anda tidak menyukainya? Dir On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Hendry Luk wrote: > > > Guys, ada yang bisa suggest ETL tool di java? Preferably yang gak involve > XML (I hate XMLs). Gw baru checked

Re: [JUG-Indonesia] ETL Tool

2010-02-28 Thread sm96
kalo requirementnya seperti itu, berarti tidak ada. sementara etl tools ada banyak sekali. On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Hendry Luk wrote: > > > Guys, ada yang bisa suggest ETL tool di java? Preferably yang gak involve > XML (I hate XMLs). Gw baru checked out scriptella, tapi pake xml dimana2

Re: [JUG-Indonesia] ETL Tool

2010-03-01 Thread sm96
ini masalah pribadi, gak ada hubungannya dengan teknologi. silahkan aja, suka-suka masing-masing pribadi anda-anda semua. hehehe 2010/3/1 dir dir > > > Boleh tanya mengapa anda benci XML dalam kaitan nya dengan > ETL? apa problem yang anda hadapi sampai anda tidak menyukainya? > > Dir > > > On M

Re: [JUG-Indonesia] ETL Tool

2010-03-01 Thread Feris Thia
Yup. Hanya Kettle jg berbasis XML jadi ga masuk hitungan kali. hehehe Bingung juga kok ada req seperti itu ya? Di PHI kita bisa memecahkan masalah ETL yang sangat sulit dengan cara ETL generate ETL dan kemudian dieksekusi on the fly :) Regards, Feris On 3/1/10, Ifnu bima wrote: >> Guys, ada ya

Re: [JUG-Indonesia] ETL Tool

2010-03-02 Thread Hendry Luk
Aah, graphical tool.. Will check that out thanks. Kadang kalo terlalu banyak choice (di google) jadi bingung milih. So just wanted buat nyari tau, de-facto conventionnya most jugger pada prefer pake yg mana berdasarkan past experience. Cheers 2010/3/1 Feris Thia > > > Yup. Hanya Kettle jg berbas

Re: [JUG-Indonesia] ETL Tool

2010-03-02 Thread Hendry Luk
Well, bukan requirement sih, tapi which one yg provide the most pleasing experience in term of nulis ETL scriptnya. It's quite unbelievable bahwa mereka semua milih pake XML, considering XML is possibly the worst way ever buat ngescript ETL logics (loop, condition, etc), dibanding misalnya pake pyt

Re: [JUG-Indonesia] ETL Tool

2010-03-02 Thread sm96
pake kettle, biarpun pake xml, tapi gak pernah sentuh sama sekali itu xml files. why bother with xml? 2010/3/1 Feris Thia > > > Yup. Hanya Kettle jg berbasis XML jadi ga masuk hitungan kali. hehehe > > Bingung juga kok ada req seperti itu ya? Di PHI kita bisa memecahkan > masalah ETL yang sangat

Re: [JUG-Indonesia] ETL Tool

2010-03-03 Thread sm96
kalo gak mau ada xml, jangan pernah pake kettle atawa pentaho data integration. padahal performa kettle sendiri untuk transformasi yg lumayan kompleks lumayan bagus, even dia pake xml. apalagi kalo maunya pake tools m$ punya, SSIS, graphical toolnya bagus, dan enak banget dipakenya, tapi jangan lup

Re: [JUG-Indonesia] ETL Tool

2010-03-03 Thread Feris Thia
Yup... setuju, Jangan pake Kettle deh... karena dengan Kettle kita bisa : 1. Belajar I/O dengan sangat baik, bagaimana mengelola / meng-scale dari mulai Harddisk I/O, RDBMS engine tuning, memory tuning, dll. Load balancing antara semua aspect tersebut lah :) 2. Menghasilkan throughput 24.000-an re

Re: [JUG-Indonesia] ETL Tool

2010-03-04 Thread Hendry Luk
I think lu got it all wrong... :P I said gw benci SSIS so much, n at no point would I consider ssis enak dipake, dan to be honest, i dont give a shit about its graphical tool ;) Dan gw sekarang lagi nyari etl tool buat java platform, bukan ms. Xml.., well, kayak di original question, gw *prefer*

Re: [JUG-Indonesia] ETL Tool

2010-03-04 Thread Feris Thia
Lightweight = 2KB, 10MB, 20MB in package size ? Non Java ? Mainstream ? Atau non XML ? Requirementnya keren juga ya. how about creating your own ETL ? Or using Unix batch script ? Or Windows Power Shell ? Comes out of the box with the OS :) Regards, Feris 2010/3/4 Hendry Luk > Not sur

Re: [JUG-Indonesia] ETL Tool

2010-03-04 Thread Feris Thia
For this, I think Kettle is very lightweight and will have the jobs done perfectly :) Regards, Feris 2010/3/4 Hendry Luk > Btw gw gak butuh full stack BI solution, cuma buat beberapa regular > lightweight tasks. Task2 semacem.: > - process semua rows dari outgoing sms di database ke file, ftp

Re: [JUG-Indonesia] ETL Tool

2010-03-05 Thread Hendry Luk
Hmm ok.. kalimat gw misleading. It should read: "gw gak familiar sama options yg ada di java, karna itu gw survey kemari buat nyari tau tool yg mainstream di kalangan jugger, instead of nyari2 sendiri di google n end up dengan random tool yg nyeleneh n gak ada yg pake". Dan lightweight as in gw ga

Re: [JUG-Indonesia] ETL Tool

2010-03-05 Thread Henry Suryawirawan
mungkin bisa juga cobain JasperETL ato Talend walau gue gak pernah cobain buat requirements yg kompleks spt Pak Feris ;-) ada GUI designer nya juga kok 2010/3/4 Feris Thia > > > For this, I think Kettle is very lightweight and will have the jobs done > perfectly :) > > Regards, > > Feris > > 201

Re: [JUG-Indonesia] ETL Tool

2010-03-08 Thread sm96
mintanya macem-macem dan aneh-aneh.. semakin gak ketemu aja nih pilihannya... bikin aja sendiri. 2010/3/5 Henry Suryawirawan > > > mungkin bisa juga cobain JasperETL ato Talend > walau gue gak pernah cobain buat requirements yg kompleks spt Pak Feris ;-) > ada GUI designer nya juga kok > > 2010/

Re: [JUG-Indonesia] ETL Tool

2010-03-08 Thread agung nugroho
gw ngikut bung Feris d, Kettle - Spoon :) --- On Mon, 8/3/10, sm96 wrote: From: sm96 Subject: Re: [JUG-Indonesia] ETL Tool To: jug-indonesia@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 8 March, 2010, 10:41 AM   mintanya macem-macem dan aneh-aneh.. semakin gak ketemu

Re: [JUG-Indonesia] ETL Tool

2010-03-08 Thread Hendry Luk
Hey syaiful, lu mesti relax dikit mate. Baca lagi semua posting gw, requirement apa yg aneh? "Etl apa ajah yg kalian suggest buat simple tasks? Preferably yg non-xml, tapi anything is ok". Ini requirement yg liberal banget if u ask me. Cuma friendly poll ajah, gak mesti participate kalo gak mau. Wh

Re: [JUG-Indonesia] ETL Tool

2010-03-09 Thread mujoko mujoko
Maksud bro Syaiful baik kok bro :), and jangan lupa kalo udah pake sendok pake juga "panci" :) buat manggil si "sendok" and lebih lengkap pake "dapur" :) On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 7:34 AM, Hendry Luk wrote: > > > Hey syaiful, lu mesti relax dikit mate. Baca lagi semua posting gw, > requirement apa

Re: [JUG-Indonesia] ETL Tool

2010-03-09 Thread sm96
yah, karena yg lu butuhin sebenarnya udah ketemu. mau cari kemana lagi? hahahaha On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 7:34 AM, Hendry Luk wrote: > > > Hey syaiful, lu mesti relax dikit mate. Baca lagi semua posting gw, > requirement apa yg aneh? > "Etl apa ajah yg kalian suggest buat simple tasks? Preferably

Re: [JUG-Indonesia] ETL Tool

2010-03-09 Thread Ifnu bima
> Syaiful, gw appreciate 5 replies lu, tapi sorry gw gagal nangkep any value yg > lu add to the discussion so far. Tacky sarcasm isn't exactly what i was > looking for. Cannot more agree with this ;). -- http://ifnu.artivisi.com +62 856 9211 8687 regards