Re: A (Very) Minimal Charm

2016-12-02 Thread Free Ekanayaka
On 2 December 2016 at 06:27, Stuart Bishop wrote: > We might be able to lower deployment times from minutes to seconds, since > often this step is the main time sink. > Right. These are the time scales I meant too as well. If you want to have quality software you need to be able to test it. If

Application names starting with digits

2016-12-02 Thread James Page
Hi All Is there a specific rationale for application names being limited to not starting with a digit? I get why they can't end with one but I don't see why juju should place the same restriction on the start of an app name? Example (where we tripped over this): juju deploy ubuntu 6wind-virtu

Re: Application names starting with digits

2016-12-02 Thread Nate Finch
There's no technical reason for the restriction, AFAIK. I believe it's just aesthetic. On Fri, Dec 2, 2016, 5:50 AM James Page wrote: > Hi All > > Is there a specific rationale for application names being limited to not > starting with a digit? I get why they can't end with one but I don't see

Re: Application names starting with digits

2016-12-02 Thread Adam Collard
It'd be nice to have full Unicode support in both charm and application names. On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 at 12:43 Nate Finch wrote: > There's no technical reason for the restriction, AFAIK. I believe it's > just aesthetic. > > On Fri, Dec 2, 2016, 5:50 AM James Page wrote: > > Hi All > > Is there a s

Re: Application names starting with digits

2016-12-02 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 02/12/16 07:46, Adam Collard wrote: > It'd be nice to have full Unicode support in both charm and > application names. Steady on, that would make it easy to have misleading charm names, or ones that are very difficult for people to type. I don't mind lifting the restriction on up-front digits,

Re: Application names starting with digits

2016-12-02 Thread Adam Collard
On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 at 13:43 Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > On 02/12/16 07:46, Adam Collard wrote: > > It'd be nice to have full Unicode support in both charm and > > application names. > > Steady on, that would make it easy to have misleading charm names, or > ones that are very difficult for people

Re: Application names starting with digits

2016-12-02 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 02/12/16 09:23, Adam Collard wrote: > True, but we could do normalisation in the charm store to prevent > malicious names. I think it's an important aspect of software in the > modern world that it can support the wide array of languages that we > humans use. This just transfers the definition

Re: Application names starting with digits

2016-12-02 Thread Nate Finch
One thing we *could* do to support non-english names that would not entirely open the door to emoji etc is to simply constrain the names to unicode letters and numbers. Thus you could name something 數據庫 but not . On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 9:29 AM Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > On 02/12/16 09:23, A

Re: Application names starting with digits

2016-12-02 Thread Marco Ceppi
On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 10:31 AM Nate Finch wrote: > One thing we *could* do to support non-english names that would not > entirely open the door to emoji etc is to simply constrain the names to > unicode letters and numbers. Thus you could name something 數據庫 but > not . > I bothered Rick ab

Juju 2.1-beta2 is here!

2016-12-02 Thread Nicholas Skaggs
A new development release of Juju, 2.1-beta2, is here! ## What's new? *Openstack Provider has been updated to support Neutron networking apis * New APIs for querying instance types and characteristics available on clouds * Model Migration is no longer behind a feature flag * Instrumentati

Re: Application names starting with digits

2016-12-02 Thread Nate Finch
I generally assume that "hard to type" doesn't apply when you're talking about someone's native language. Yes, you or I would have trouble typing 數據庫 (database), but to someone in China, that's probably a word they type all the time. Forcing people to use an English translation for the name of th

Re: Application names starting with digits

2016-12-02 Thread Marco Ceppi
On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 11:18 AM Nate Finch wrote: > I generally assume that "hard to type" doesn't apply when you're talking > about someone's native language. Yes, you or I would have trouble > typing 數據庫 (database), but to someone in China, that's probably a word they > type all the time. For