Re: [j-nsp] TCAM full on EX8200?

2011-10-16 Thread Mark Tinka
On Sunday, October 16, 2011 09:56:41 AM Julien Goodwin wrote: I do object to the still vaporware, not due to ship until the end of the year is closer. The main threat to the T-series is that 10ge slowly removing the need for Sonet/SDH,... But on the flip side, a lot of folk are still

Re: [j-nsp] TCAM full on EX8200?

2011-10-16 Thread Mark Tinka
On Sunday, October 16, 2011 02:33:57 AM Richard A Steenbergen wrote: All the hardware in the world doesn't help you if you don't have the right software, and C/J shockingly don't want to make a $10k box that obsoletes the need for a $1mil T-series. I don't think it's terribly shocking :-).

Re: [j-nsp] TCAM full on EX8200?

2011-10-16 Thread Julien Goodwin
On 16/10/11 16:55, Mark Tinka wrote: and if all you need is 10g LAN-PHY the MX with the 16-port MIC does it nicely. There should be a newer version of this line card coming with WAN-PHY support. 10g WAN-PHY helps, but isn't actually enough. Some long-haul applications require actual

Re: [j-nsp] TCAM full on EX8200?

2011-10-16 Thread Mark Tinka
On Sunday, October 16, 2011 01:59:29 PM Julien Goodwin wrote: 10g WAN-PHY helps, but isn't actually enough. Preaching to the choir :-). Mark. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ juniper-nsp mailing list

[j-nsp] MPLS TE Question

2011-10-16 Thread Paul Stewart
Hi there. I'm trying to understand the advantage of using mpls traffic-engineering bgp-igp-both-ribs versus mpls traffic-engineering bgp-igp. Is there an advantage to loading up both tables that I am missing? Our goal is LSP mesh, iBGP, OSPF, OSPFv3, l2vpn, and l3vpn. With what I can

Re: [j-nsp] TCAM full on EX8200?

2011-10-16 Thread Julien Goodwin
On 16/10/11 13:28, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: snip openflow rant Of course the traditional router vendors are also realizing that they won't be able to compete on price given the massive volumes that third party ASIC makers are doing, so they've already started building systems around

Re: [j-nsp] MPLS TE Question

2011-10-16 Thread Ivan Ivanov
Hi Paul, Those two commands moves the LSP routes from inet.3 to inet.0. As the first one leaves them in inet.3, the second one not. In this way they are used for all IP traffic, because by default the LSP routes are with lower metric. In normal VPN MPLS core you don't need this as all you need to

Re: [j-nsp] MPLS TE Question

2011-10-16 Thread Paul Stewart
Thank you - that makes more sense now.. Appreciate it. Paul From: Ivan Ivanov [mailto:ivanov.i...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 10:34 AM To: Paul Stewart Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [j-nsp] MPLS TE Question Hi Paul, Those two commands moves the LSP

Re: [j-nsp] Force IP traffic not to use the LSP path when enabling ISIS Traffic Engineering with Shortcuts

2011-10-16 Thread Ivan Ivanov
Hi Peter, IGP shortcuts should import more routes in inet.3 for the purposes of BGP resolving, as is described in the link below. http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/junos10.4/topics/concept/mpls-igp-shortcuts.html?searchid=1318793088423 It will not copy anything to inet.0. Do you have

Re: [j-nsp] TCAM full on EX8200?

2011-10-16 Thread Jeff Wheeler
On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Julien Goodwin jgood...@studio442.com.au wrote: Arista is the one company that seems poised to actually take this on and keep coming out with good hardware, at a decent price, with a powerful, open control plane. Their kit isn't Openflow interoperable yet that