Re: [j-nsp] Opinions on fusion provider edge

2018-11-06 Thread Richard McGovern
Agree 100%. If you need L3 for 1GE edge, no solution today. That solution (late 1H2019 or 2H2019) will come with EVPN/VXLAN support on EX4300-MP, from what I hear. If you can get away with just L2 at 1GE edge, than ESI-LAG to any L2 Access will work. Yes you can also use QFX5K Agg running

Re: [j-nsp] Opinions on fusion provider edge

2018-11-06 Thread Richard McGovern
To run EVPN on QFX5100 yes you need extra license – PFL (the less expensive option). NOTE: PFL and AFL always confusing to me, as which is more!! You could then run the EX4300 connections as an ESI-LAG, versus MC-LAG – has advantages of standards based, can scale horizontally in the core, and

Re: [j-nsp] Opinions on fusion provider edge

2018-11-06 Thread Saku Ytti
Hey Richard, I think there are two separate issues here. Lot of people looking at Fusion aren't choosing it for technology, they are choosing it for media, as 1GE L3 ports are not available. So options are a) L2 aggregation b) Fusion c) Wait for JNPR to release some MX244 with 4xQSFP28 + 40xSFP+

Re: [j-nsp] Opinions on fusion provider edge

2018-11-06 Thread Eldon Koyle
We are looking at a mix of QFX5100-48S and EX4300-32F (somewhere between 6 and 10 devices total). It looks like the QFX supports EVPN, but Juniper doesn't seem to have any relatively inexpensive 1Gbe devices with EVPN support. We are planning on dual-homing most of our buildings (strictly L2,

Re: [j-nsp] Opinions on fusion provider edge

2018-11-06 Thread Richard McGovern
I might suggest you look at an EVPN based design instead. This is going to be Juniper's #1 go to in the future. I believe things like Junos Fusion and MC-LAG, etc. may still be supported, but secondary to EVPN and associated features. What is your planned SD devices? QFX5??? Richard