Re: [j-nsp] Junos BGP update generation inefficiency -cause for concern?

2015-05-19 Thread Phil Mayers
On 18/05/15 12:49, Saku Ytti wrote: I'm personally not too excited about templates in IOS, as I tend to have only like 3-5 peer-groups in IOS, and if I translate the config to template based, the amount of lines in my config increases. I think the break-even would require rather large amount of

Re: [j-nsp] Junos BGP update generation inefficiency -cause for concern?

2015-05-18 Thread Mark Tinka
On 18/May/15 14:11, Scott Granados wrote: I’m not sure exactly what you’re looking for but the peer group system under JunOS is fairly efficient. If you set your export and import policies per group the bgp process will place these in a peer group and dynamically break off slow members

Re: [j-nsp] Junos BGP update generation inefficiency -cause for concern?

2015-05-18 Thread Scott Granados
I’m not sure exactly what you’re looking for but the peer group system under JunOS is fairly efficient. If you set your export and import policies per group the bgp process will place these in a peer group and dynamically break off slow members in to their own groups so that one slower peer

Re: [j-nsp] Junos BGP update generation inefficiency -cause for concern?

2015-05-18 Thread Adam Vitkovsky
Hi Saku, Saku Ytti [mailto:s...@ytti.fi] Sent: 18 May 2015 12:50 On 18 May 2015 at 14:00, Adam Vitkovsky adam.vitkov...@gamma.co.uk wrote: Hey Adam, Yes I'm thinking about BGP Dynamic Update Peer-Groups - the improved BGP update message generation where the update-group

Re: [j-nsp] Junos BGP update generation inefficiency -cause for concern?

2015-05-18 Thread Adam Vitkovsky
From: Mark Tinka [mailto:mark.ti...@seacom.mu] Sent: 18 May 2015 13:23 On 18/May/15 14:11, Scott Granados wrote: I'm not sure exactly what you're looking for but the peer group system under JunOS is fairly efficient. If you set your export and import policies per group the bgp process

Re: [j-nsp] Junos BGP update generation inefficiency -cause for concern?

2015-05-18 Thread Jeff Haas
On May 18, 2015, at 8:08 AM, Julien Goodwin jgood...@studio442.com.au wrote: On 18/05/15 21:49, Saku Ytti wrote: The update-groups are created dynamically in JunOS as far as I know. That is if you have BGP group where neighbors have unique export policies, you will have multiple

Re: [j-nsp] Junos BGP update generation inefficiency -cause for concern?

2015-05-18 Thread Julien Goodwin
On 18/05/15 21:49, Saku Ytti wrote: The update-groups are created dynamically in JunOS as far as I know. That is if you have BGP group where neighbors have unique export policies, you will have multiple update-groups in configuration group. But I guess if you have two neighbors with same

[j-nsp] Junos BGP update generation inefficiency -cause for concern?

2015-05-18 Thread Adam Vitkovsky
Hi folks, I'd like to ask if the 90's way of BGP generating updates per peer-group is a cause for concern on a modern gear. And if not then anyways am I the only one missing some flexibility in BGP peers configuration in Junos? It's really annoying that every time one needs to adjust something

Re: [j-nsp] Junos BGP update generation inefficiency -cause for concern?

2015-05-18 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2015-05-18 10:04 +), Adam Vitkovsky wrote: Hey Adam, I'd like to ask if the 90's way of BGP generating updates per peer-group is a cause for concern on a modern gear. And if not then anyways am I the only one missing some flexibility in BGP peers configuration in Junos? It's

Re: [j-nsp] Junos BGP update generation inefficiency -cause for concern?

2015-05-18 Thread Adam Vitkovsky
Hey buddy, Saku Ytti Sent: 18 May 2015 11:12 On (2015-05-18 10:04 +), Adam Vitkovsky wrote: Hey Adam, I'd like to ask if the 90's way of BGP generating updates per peer-group is a cause for concern on a modern gear. And if not then anyways am I the only one missing some

Re: [j-nsp] Junos BGP update generation inefficiency -cause for concern?

2015-05-18 Thread Alexandre Snarskii
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 10:04:00AM +, Adam Vitkovsky wrote: Hi folks, I'd like to ask if the 90's way of BGP generating updates per peer-group is a cause for concern on a modern gear. And if not then anyways am I the only one missing some flexibility in BGP peers configuration in

Re: [j-nsp] Junos BGP update generation inefficiency -cause for concern?

2015-05-18 Thread Saku Ytti
On 18 May 2015 at 14:00, Adam Vitkovsky adam.vitkov...@gamma.co.uk wrote: Hey Adam, Yes I'm thinking about BGP Dynamic Update Peer-Groups - the improved BGP update message generation where the update-group memberships is calculated automatically/dynamically by the system based on common