Re: [j-nsp] Redundancy with MX

2013-03-31 Thread Mark Tinka
On Friday, January 25, 2013 09:46:28 AM Saku Ytti wrote: Still I'd be afraid that the added complexity bites me more often than saves me. I have to agree - I'd rather buy another chassis to solve my problems than implement logical systems (SDR in the Cisco world). I'm also still waiting for

Re: [j-nsp] Redundancy with MX

2013-03-31 Thread Mark Tinka
On Friday, February 01, 2013 10:28:13 PM Eugeniu Patrascu wrote: I would go with the two MX80s and two L2 switches to aggregate all connections. I did a design like this with 2 x MX80 and 2 x EX4500 in a stack (only L2 aggregation, routing done on the MX).The switches would be connected

Re: [j-nsp] Redundancy with MX

2013-02-01 Thread Eugeniu Patrascu
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Markus H hauschild.mar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I wonder what kind of redundancy the community would prefer for small-medium sized PoPs. This is what I have come up with so far: a) 2xMX80 Pro: Two seperate devices so less prone to config errors and chassis

Re: [j-nsp] Redundancy with MX

2013-01-24 Thread Stephen Hon
Ouch… I picked a single MX480 chassis design over a dual MX80 because of the unavailability of the MS-DPC card in the MX80. We're very new to Juniper here with close to no practical experience. Nonetheless, we're migrating away from Brocade NetIron MLX to the MX and we figured that dual RE and

Re: [j-nsp] Redundancy with MX

2013-01-24 Thread Caillin Bathern
-Original Message- From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Hon Sent: Friday, 25 January 2013 9:53 AM To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Redundancy with MX Ouch... I picked a single MX480 chassis design over

Re: [j-nsp] Redundancy with MX

2013-01-24 Thread joel jaeggli
On 1/24/13 2:53 PM, Stephen Hon wrote: Ouch… I picked a single MX480 chassis design over a dual MX80 because of the unavailability of the MS-DPC card in the MX80. yeah that's a consideration if you need an msdpc. We're very new to Juniper here with close to no practical experience.

Re: [j-nsp] Redundancy with MX

2013-01-24 Thread james jones
Are you looking to do active-standby or active-active mc-lag? On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Andre Christian andre.christ...@o3bnetworks.com wrote: Marcus - I am building about 10 PoPs and opted for the dual mx-80 design. Also looked at making the PoPs all layer 2 with a pair of exs. Plan

Re: [j-nsp] Redundancy with MX

2013-01-24 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2013-01-24 17:53 -0500), Stephen Hon wrote: I'm wondering though, would dividing some of the routing duties into logical systems help to protect from a massive system-wide problem? From what I understand the logical systems spin up their own set of processes and have their own

Re: [j-nsp] Redundancy with MX

2013-01-23 Thread joel jaeggli
On 1/21/13 11:44 PM, Saku Ytti wrote: On (2013-01-21 21:40 +0100), Markus H wrote: I wonder what kind of redundancy the community would prefer for small-medium sized PoPs. a) 2xMX80 b) 1xMX240/480 with redundant SCB and RE a) no question. As long as you can live with modest RE performance of

[j-nsp] Redundancy with MX

2013-01-21 Thread Markus H
Hi, I wonder what kind of redundancy the community would prefer for small-medium sized PoPs. This is what I have come up with so far: a) 2xMX80 Pro: Two seperate devices so less prone to config errors and chassis failure Con: Using redundant uplinks is more complicated (LB would need to be done

Re: [j-nsp] Redundancy with MX

2013-01-21 Thread Andre Christian
Marcus - I am building about 10 PoPs and opted for the dual mx-80 design. Also looked at making the PoPs all layer 2 with a pair of exs. Plan to use MC-LAG where applicable. On Jan 21, 2013, at 3:43 PM, Markus H hauschild.mar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I wonder what kind of redundancy the

Re: [j-nsp] Redundancy with MX

2013-01-21 Thread Gavin Henry
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Re: [j-nsp] Redundancy with MX

2013-01-21 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2013-01-21 21:40 +0100), Markus H wrote: I wonder what kind of redundancy the community would prefer for small-medium sized PoPs. a) 2xMX80 b) 1xMX240/480 with redundant SCB and RE a) no question. As long as you can live with modest RE performance of MX80. Routing separated two units