Re: [j-nsp] SRX 3600 dropped packets - how to debug?

2013-05-29 Thread Phil Mayers
On 28/05/13 14:57, Phil Mayers wrote: I have my suspicions about what exactly the ALG is (mis)counting as a drop, and will be trying to reproduce it on the bench now it's been taken out of service. All, Just to confirm that, as tested on the bench on SRX 3600 and JunOS 12.1R6.5 *all*

Re: [j-nsp] SRX 3600 dropped packets - how to debug?

2013-05-29 Thread Morgan McLean
Side note on the DNS ALG, RHEL 6 doesn't like the SRX DNS ALG. RHEL 6 makes both A and lookups for each name resolution in the same connection, resulting in two requests being sent out, one response being received and the session closing, cutting off the second response. This causes a 5-10

Re: [j-nsp] SRX 3600 dropped packets - how to debug?

2013-05-29 Thread Phil Mayers
On 29/05/2013 20:24, Morgan McLean wrote: Side note on the DNS ALG, RHEL 6 doesn't like the SRX DNS ALG. RHEL 6 makes both A and lookups for each name resolution in the same connection, resulting in two requests being sent out, one response being received and the session closing, cutting

Re: [j-nsp] SRX 3600 dropped packets - how to debug?

2013-05-29 Thread Morgan McLean
Ya, I'm not saying it's specific to RHEL 6, but we realized the proverbial pain in the ass when we started doing some early testing with it. Interestingly enough, we didn't hit the issue on our core firewall, it was only when coming from the edge firewall. The edge is a 650 cluster running

Re: [j-nsp] SRX 3600 dropped packets - how to debug?

2013-05-28 Thread ashish verma
See if this article helps you (juniper login required) http://kb.juniper.net/InfoCenter/index?page=contentid=KB16509smlogin=true On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 2:41 AM, Phil Mayers p.may...@imperial.ac.ukwrote: On 05/27/2013 03:45 PM, OBrien, Will wrote: Are you using any alg? Ah ha... thanks

Re: [j-nsp] SRX 3600 dropped packets - how to debug?

2013-05-28 Thread Julien Goodwin
On 28/05/13 19:40, ashish verma wrote: That said, I can't believe the firewall was *actually* dropping 1500pps of DNS traffic; we'd have widespread problems reported, surely. So, it seems that maybe ALG-processed traffic is being counted under packets dropped for show security flow statistics?

Re: [j-nsp] SRX 3600 dropped packets - how to debug?

2013-05-28 Thread OBrien, Will
The primary use of the dns alg is to reduce session count. This is very apparent on net screens. I reduced 500k sessions down to 400k by turning it on. That said, you can achieve similar results by setting dns specific policies with short timeouts. Will On May 28, 2013, at 8:41 AM, Julien

Re: [j-nsp] SRX 3600 dropped packets - how to debug?

2013-05-28 Thread Phil Mayers
On 28/05/13 14:40, Julien Goodwin wrote: On 28/05/13 19:40, ashish verma wrote: That said, I can't believe the firewall was *actually* dropping 1500pps of DNS traffic; we'd have widespread problems reported, surely. So, it seems that maybe ALG-processed traffic is being counted under packets

Re: [j-nsp] SRX 3600 dropped packets - how to debug?

2013-05-28 Thread Phil Mayers
On 28/05/13 14:51, OBrien, Will wrote: The primary use of the dns alg is to reduce session count. This is very apparent on net screens. I reduced 500k sessions down to 400k by turning it on. That said, you can achieve similar results by setting dns specific policies with short timeouts. Out of

Re: [j-nsp] SRX 3600 dropped packets - how to debug?

2013-05-27 Thread Pavel Lunin
22.05.2013 21:01, Phil Mayers wrote: How can I determine what the dropped packets are, and why they're being dropped? show interfaces extensive and check out Flow error statistics (Packets dropped due to): Another place to look at: show security screen statistics zone/iface.

Re: [j-nsp] SRX 3600 dropped packets - how to debug?

2013-05-27 Thread Phil Mayers
On 05/27/2013 10:41 AM, Pavel Lunin wrote: 22.05.2013 21:01, Phil Mayers wrote: How can I determine what the dropped packets are, and why they're being dropped? show interfaces extensive and check out Flow error statistics (Packets dropped due to): Nothing in there corresponding to the

Re: [j-nsp] SRX 3600 dropped packets - how to debug?

2013-05-27 Thread Phil Mayers
On 27/05/2013 10:44, Phil Mayers wrote: On 05/27/2013 10:41 AM, Pavel Lunin wrote: 22.05.2013 21:01, Phil Mayers wrote: How can I determine what the dropped packets are, and why they're being dropped? show interfaces extensive and check out Flow error statistics (Packets dropped due to):

Re: [j-nsp] SRX 3600 dropped packets - how to debug?

2013-05-27 Thread Pavel Lunin
27.05.2013 13:44, Phil Mayers wrote: show interfaces extensive and check out Flow error statistics (Packets dropped due to): Nothing in there corresponding to the numbers/rates I'm seeing on the show security flow statistics If users are complaining, try to understand what exactly they have

Re: [j-nsp] SRX 3600 dropped packets - how to debug?

2013-05-27 Thread Pavel Lunin
24.05.2013 19:05, Alex Arseniev wrote: If You run any kind peer-to-peer apps (uTorrent, eMule, etc, also includes Skype) then You'll see that outside peers trying to establish LOADS of unsolicited connection to Your inside hosts. And all of them will be dropped unless You enable full cone

Re: [j-nsp] SRX 3600 dropped packets - how to debug?

2013-05-27 Thread OBrien, Will
You never sent your policy to the list. Is there traffic being routed inside your zones? Do you have a trust to trust permit policy for example? Are you using any alg? Have you used trace options to determine what's dropping? Are you allowing assymetric traffic flows across the cluster? Have

Re: [j-nsp] SRX 3600 dropped packets - how to debug?

2013-05-27 Thread Phil Mayers
On 05/27/2013 03:45 PM, OBrien, Will wrote: Are you using any alg? Ah ha... thanks for the nudge. The ALG settings are SRX-defaults: admin@srx-eval show security alg status ALG Status : DNS : Enabled FTP : Enabled H323 : Disabled MGCP : Disabled MSRPC: Enabled

Re: [j-nsp] SRX 3600 dropped packets - how to debug?

2013-05-24 Thread Wood, Peter (ISS)
Hey Phil, A friendly hello from Lancaster Uni, also using SRX 3600's. Can you reproduce the loss? Or alternatively know source/destination ranges of likely connections? A user it's more likely to affect or can demonstrate it reliably? As pretty much unless this is a policy that's doing it (if

Re: [j-nsp] SRX 3600 dropped packets - how to debug?

2013-05-24 Thread Phil Mayers
On 24/05/13 11:33, Wood, Peter (ISS) wrote: Hey Phil, A friendly hello from Lancaster Uni, also using SRX 3600's. Can you reproduce the loss? Or alternatively know source/destination ranges of likely connections? A user it's more likely to affect or can demonstrate it reliably? Depends what

Re: [j-nsp] SRX 3600 dropped packets - how to debug?

2013-05-24 Thread Alex Arseniev
- Original Message - From: Phil Mayers p.may...@imperial.ac.uk To: Wood, Peter (ISS) p.w...@lancaster.ac.uk Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [j-nsp] SRX 3600 dropped packets - how to debug? At the moment, the SRX is sitting in front

Re: [j-nsp] SRX 3600 dropped packets - how to debug?

2013-05-24 Thread Phil Mayers
On 24/05/13 16:05, Alex Arseniev wrote: At the moment, the SRX is sitting in front of our personally owned VRF; this means all our wireless and wired laptops, and RAS VPN address ranges. If You run any kind peer-to-peer apps (uTorrent, eMule, etc, also includes Skype) then You'll see that

[j-nsp] SRX 3600 dropped packets - how to debug?

2013-05-22 Thread Phil Mayers
We've got an SRX 3600 in for testing. It's a simple config - two interfaces, one in untrust and another in trust, and two permit-all policies. No app-firewall, screens or other oddness. The device is logging a *lot* of dropped packets: Flow Statistics Summary: System total valid