Re: [kde-community] Vision, mission and manifesto - what is their definition and purpose?

2016-02-10 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Mittwoch, 10. Februar 2016 21:42:31 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > In the past, the KDE usability team (namely Björn, Heiko and I) have at > > least twice suggested to create a common vision for KDE's products. > > This approach has received mostly negative comments every time, with the > > a

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - first draft for discussion

2016-02-10 Thread Cornelius Schumacher
On Friday 05 February 2016 08:20:22 Martin Graesslin wrote: > > Thus now my question: How will this vision provide us guidance for the next > disruption? How will we be able to use this vision to be a leader in the > next disruption? Please explain why you think that the vision will help in > the

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - first draft for discussion

2016-02-10 Thread Cornelius Schumacher
On Monday 08 February 2016 12:16:41 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Friday, February 05, 2016 05:00:28 PM Ingo Klöcker wrote: > > > > So, how about > > "KDE enables everyone to control their digital life without compromising > > their privacy." > > That's getting really catchy! > > Really useful f

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - an alternative draft for discussion

2016-02-10 Thread Alexander Dymo
> So a vision which would ensure that also future technologies could be served, > would not harm that? Let's just not close doors. Sure. But let's also not spread thin. Do you think it makes sense to find a middle ground between two proposals? ___ kde-co

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - first draft for discussion

2016-02-10 Thread Clemens Toennies
On Feb 10, 2016 10:01 PM, "Alexander Neundorf" wrote: > > So let's just assume Inkscape, since it was brought up here by Jos. Clearly a > GUI application, cross-platform and free. So far, clearly in. Our draft says > "familiar and consistent KDE user experience [...]. This is reached by > followin

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - first draft for discussion

2016-02-10 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Tuesday, February 09, 2016 23:03:47 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Tuesday, February 09, 2016 23:15:21 Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > I'll also start a new sub-thread. > > Since this vision draft is very broad: what kind of projects do you > > consider to be covered by this vision draft ? > > Or,

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - first draft for discussion

2016-02-10 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 07:59:20 Clemens Toennies wrote: ... > Provoking thought: > With the recent shift of Gnome to exclusivity (leading to mint x-apps, > ubuntu forks), what if more and more GTK applications would become KDE > projects because of shared values inside an independent, welc

Re: [kde-community] Vision, mission and manifesto - what is their definition and purpose?

2016-02-10 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Tuesday, February 09, 2016 23:55:59 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > On Dienstag, 9. Februar 2016 23:35:38 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: ... > > This is maybe an important detail. > > The results of "Evolve KDE" (https://evolve.kde.org/surveyresults.pdf) > > recommend to "Develop a vision, strategy and

Re: [kde-community] Should we allow non-KDE projects to participate in GSoC under KDE?

2016-02-10 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016, Vishesh Handa wrote: On Feb 8, 2016 11:51, "Jonathan Riddell" wrote: > > I also heard a suggestion from Vishesh that projects like Amarok > shouldn't be allowed in GSoC because they are not very active.  It > seems nonsense to block projects from having activity on grounds

Re: [kde-community] Should we allow non-KDE projects to participate in GSoC under KDE?

2016-02-10 Thread Vishesh Handa
On Feb 8, 2016 11:51, "Jonathan Riddell" wrote: > > I also heard a suggestion from Vishesh that projects like Amarok > shouldn't be allowed in GSoC because they are not very active. It > seems nonsense to block projects from having activity on grounds that > they are not very active. I stand by

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - first draft for discussion

2016-02-10 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016, Jos Poortvliet wrote: See my other, ridiculously long email about this. GNOME has a very different philosophy. I agree with you that there are probably GTK based projects which could fit just fine in KDE if we would be a bit less technology-focused. Inkscape, for one, see

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - first draft for discussion

2016-02-10 Thread Jos Poortvliet
On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 7:59:20 AM BRST Clemens Toennies wrote: > On Feb 9, 2016 11:42 PM, "Sebastian Kügler" wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, February 09, 2016 23:07:56 Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > > On Tuesday, February 09, 2016 10:41:07 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > > ... > > > > > > > As Mart