Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-17 Thread Adriaan de Groot
On Monday, January 16, 2017 01:13:03 AM Nicolás Alvarez wrote: > Where do we stop? We have to draw the line somewhere, but I don't know > where. Perhaps making it case-by-case could be problematic, someone > could claim it's unfair to give X to Kubuntu and not give Y to them > because in their

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-17 Thread Kenny Duffus
On Tuesday, 17 January 2017 03:41:59 GMT, Ken Vermette wrote: I think he might be right, only the trademark is still Canonical. Development is supported primarily by... ... Blue Systems? Rush? The community? The Tragically Hip? Valorie? Nickelback? ... Either way, I personally look at the

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-16 Thread Clemens Toennies
Blue Systems is not really involved after the shift to Neon.

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-16 Thread Ken Vermette
I think he might be right, only the trademark is still Canonical. Development is supported primarily by... ... Blue Systems? Rush? The community? The Tragically Hip? Valorie? Nickelback? ... Either way, I personally look at the lineage and say that's good enough for me, at least for the first

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-16 Thread Alexander Potashev
2017-01-16 20:51 GMT+03:00 Ken Vermette : > KDE applications. In this case Canonical could use KDE infra for Kubuntu > In this case, Canonical is a patron, so Kubuntu, under Canonical, would fall > under this this umbrella. Kubuntu is not under Canonical since 2012. --

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-16 Thread Ken Vermette
For my $0.02, any distribution or parent sponsoring KDE development by becoming a member (€1000/yr for companies, €100/yr for individuals) could see that commitment met with infrastructure on our end as an optional perk. This helps justify their financial contributions, and it gives us more

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-15 Thread Nicolás Alvarez
2017-01-08 5:02 GMT-03:00 Valorie Zimmerman : > I'm writing at the request of the sysadmins, who would like to hear > from the community about distributions' use of KDE infra. > > I'm part of the Kubuntu community and will use it as the example I know best. > > Kubuntu

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-15 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On 2017 M01 14, Sat 16:53:19 CET Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > On Donnerstag, 12. Januar 2017 11:18:07 CET Harald Sitter wrote: > > Manifesto says one of our values is "Inclusivity to ensure that all > > people are welcome to join us and participate;". Be inclusive, give > > Kubuntu and Fedora a place

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-14 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Donnerstag, 12. Januar 2017 11:18:07 CET Harald Sitter wrote: > Manifesto says one of our values is "Inclusivity to ensure that all > people are welcome to join us and participate;". Be inclusive, give > Kubuntu and Fedora a place on phab to manage their todos. Costs us > nothing, helps our

Extent of KDE helping downstreams (was Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure)

2017-01-14 Thread Luca Beltrame
Il giorno Sat, 14 Jan 2017 14:20:15 +0100 Adriaan de Groot ha scritto: [renamed the discussion so that it drifts away from Valorie's request onto something else, and doesn't distract from her question] > I'm having a terrible time understanding the nature of the line in > the

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-14 Thread Luigi Toscano
Adriaan de Groot ha scritto: > I don't think votes are the way to go, really. I'd much rather just get on > with it. For the FreeBSD project on KDE's phab, I didn't even think about it: > I'm a KDE person, I'm interested in delivering KDE software to a particular > group, and I do lots of

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-13 Thread Ovidiu-Florin BOGDAN
Should we gather +s and -s and count them as a vote? Can we give the sysadmins the ok? *Ovidiu - Florin BOGDAN* GeekAliens.com Kubuntu România 2017-01-13 9:40 GMT+02:00 Luca Beltrame

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-12 Thread Luca Beltrame
Il giorno Thu, 12 Jan 2017 23:09:16 +0100 Albert Astals Cid ha scritto: > This takes 1 minute to create and adds 0.0003% of work to our > servers, let's just add it and stop a conversation that is making us > spend lots of human- hours discussing it. I thought there were no

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-12 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El dijous, 12 de gener de 2017, a les 22:46:27 CET, Ovidiu-Florin BOGDAN va escriure: > We would like a Project in the current Phabricator instance, which comes > with a wiki, TODO board and all the magic. This takes 1 minute to create and adds 0.0003% of work to our servers, let's just add it

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-12 Thread Luca Beltrame
Il giorno Thu, 12 Jan 2017 15:27:21 +0100 Adriaan de Groot ha scritto: > Luca, what exactly are you "Nay"-ing? The former or the latter? If > the latter, do you also object to > https://phabricator.kde.org/project/view/199/ ? The latter. For KDE-FreeBSD, I'd argue it's

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-12 Thread Adriaan de Groot
On Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:39:33 AM Luca Beltrame wrote: > Il giorno Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:58:32 -0800 > Valorie Zimmerman > > ha scritto: > > Bottom line: we would like a Phab instance so that we can use the task > > board, and perhaps the built-in wiki. The

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-12 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On donderdag 12 januari 2017 11:18:07 CET Harald Sitter wrote: > On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 11:58 PM, Valorie Zimmerman > wrote: > > > > Bottom line: we would like a Phab instance so that we can use the task > > board, and perhaps the built-in wiki. The sysadmins want

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-12 Thread Luca Beltrame
Il giorno Thu, 12 Jan 2017 11:49:44 +0100 Helio Chissini de Castro ha scritto: > a distribuition that has a default Gnome desktop, and all efforts on > main distribution and the only official build is Gnome based. The problem is inherently political, I see. And I guess the

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-12 Thread Helio Chissini de Castro
On Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:42:37 AM CET Luca Beltrame wrote: > Il giorno Sun, 08 Jan 2017 10:10:55 + > Helio Chissini de Castro > > ha scritto: > > I requested similar thing for doing Fedora similar things and simply > > the > > Interesting. Were there any

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-12 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 10:42 PM, Luca Beltrame wrote: > Il giorno Sun, 08 Jan 2017 10:10:55 + > Helio Chissini de Castro > ha scritto: > >> I requested similar thing for doing Fedora similar things and simply >> the > > Interesting. Were there any

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-12 Thread Luca Beltrame
Il giorno Sun, 08 Jan 2017 10:10:55 + Helio Chissini de Castro ha scritto: > I requested similar thing for doing Fedora similar things and simply > the Interesting. Were there any motivations for this? (Notice that my objections are also valid for any distro, so I

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-12 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Wed, 11 Jan 2017, Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > As the first responses to my questions show, some DO draw those Venn > diagrams. To me, if there is one, it is mostly overlap. What I do for > Kubuntu is for KDE, and what I do for KDE helps Kubuntu. > > Bottom line: we would like a Phab instance

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-12 Thread Helio Chissini de Castro
Thanks for putting this up Valerie. I requested similar thing for doing Fedora similar things and simply the matter was put aside, and I simply decided stop trying as I barely had will to fight for this when clearly nobody want to give support on our infra. Let's see if Kubuntu has a different

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-11 Thread Valorie Zimmerman
On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 4:33 AM, Adriaan de Groot wrote: > On Sunday, January 08, 2017 12:02:06 AM Valorie Zimmerman wrote: >> However, the sysadmins would like the KDE community support for this, >> since it could be seen as a "slippery slope." In addition, Ben >> Cooksley said,

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-11 Thread Adriaan de Groot
On Sunday, January 08, 2017 12:02:06 AM Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > However, the sysadmins would like the KDE community support for this, > since it could be seen as a "slippery slope." In addition, Ben > Cooksley said, "we'll need to come up with some guidelines surrounding > what distributions

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-09 Thread Kenny Duffus
On Sunday, 8 January 2017 16:28:45 GMT, Albert Astals Cid wrote: For me, the line is "you should use your project infrastructure". Since we're nice people, i would expand the line to "if your project infrastructure is not good you can use ours for KDE related stuff if that gives us no

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-08 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 5:28 AM, Albert Astals Cid wrote: > El diumenge, 8 de gener de 2017, a les 0:02:06 CET, Valorie Zimmerman va > escriure: >> I'm writing at the request of the sysadmins, who would like to hear >> from the community about distributions' use of KDE infra. >> >>

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-08 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El diumenge, 8 de gener de 2017, a les 0:02:06 CET, Valorie Zimmerman va escriure: > I'm writing at the request of the sysadmins, who would like to hear > from the community about distributions' use of KDE infra. > > I'm part of the Kubuntu community and will use it as the example I know > best.

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-08 Thread Luca Beltrame
Il giorno Sun, 8 Jan 2017 00:02:06 -0800 Valorie Zimmerman ha scritto: > However, the sysadmins would like the KDE community support for this, > since it could be seen as a "slippery slope." In addition, Ben With both my KDE and distro person hats, -1 to the idea. I

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-08 Thread Shubhi Gautam
please unsubscribe me from this list. Not sure how i was subscribed On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Valorie Zimmerman < valorie.zimmer...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm writing at the request of the sysadmins, who would like to hear > from the community about distributions' use of KDE infra. > > I'm

Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-08 Thread Valorie Zimmerman
I'm writing at the request of the sysadmins, who would like to hear from the community about distributions' use of KDE infra. I'm part of the Kubuntu community and will use it as the example I know best. Kubuntu has some KDE wiki pages, found at https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu - for which we