Hi,
Strong +1 on this. The current situation is far from good. Currently to
have a good communication application I need to either use a proprietary
platform, use a platform who doesn't support images and for which I need
to set up a bouncer on my server or use a platform which lags a lot and
which
Hello,
On Thursday, 11 June 2020 01:16:55 CEST Nate Graham wrote:
> Carson's email about bridging #kde-devel to Telegram got me thinking: we
> should have a discussion about the situation we're in regarding chat
> services in KDE.
>
> The current Matrix solution does not seem not optimal to me. I
Doesn't Riot.im support images well enough for your use-case? It's free
software, and it's becoming fairly mature lately.
The root issue for both Telegram and Matrix seems to be that they're
bridging through a legacy platform like IRC. Would it be fair to say
that this problem will slowly reso
On Thursday, 11 June 2020 07:20:55 BST Kevin Ottens wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Thursday, 11 June 2020 01:16:55 CEST Nate Graham wrote:
> > Carson's email about bridging #kde-devel to Telegram got me thinking: we
> > should have a discussion about the situation we're in regarding chat
> > services in K
Nate Graham kirjoitti 11.6.2020 klo 2.16:
Carson's email about bridging #kde-devel to Telegram got me thinking: we
should have a discussion about the situation we're in regarding chat
services in KDE.
The current Matrix solution does not seem not optimal to me. I have
really tried my best to
On Thursday, 11 June 2020 08:19:21 BST Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote:
> As an alternative, we can also "fix" IRC, meaning to improve its UX.
>
> For offering a KDE-hosted always-online experience to everyone, there
> are modern solutions such as
>
> https://convos.chat/
> https://thelounge.chat/
> ht
Kenny Duffus kirjoitti 11.6.2020 klo 11.44:
On Thursday, 11 June 2020 08:19:21 BST Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote:
As an alternative, we can also "fix" IRC, meaning to improve its UX.
For offering a KDE-hosted always-online experience to everyone, there
are modern solutions such as
https://convos.ch
Hi Nate, hi.
Nate Graham - 11.06.20, 01:16:55 CEST:
> The current Matrix solution does not seem not optimal to me. I have
> really tried my best to be a good citizen and use Matrix as much as
> possible over the last year but I find myself gravitating back towards
> Telegram because of how much be
Bernie Innocenti kirjoitti 11.6.2020 klo 9.38:
Doesn't Riot.im support images well enough for your use-case? It's free
software, and it's becoming fairly mature lately.
The root issue for both Telegram and Matrix seems to be that they're
bridging through a legacy platform like IRC. Would it be
On 11/06/2020 19.28, Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote:
Bernie Innocenti kirjoitti 11.6.2020 klo 9.38:
Doesn't Riot.im support images well enough for your use-case? It's
free software, and it's becoming fairly mature lately.
The root issue for both Telegram and Matrix seems to be that they're
bridging
On donderdag 11 juni 2020 08:20:55 CEST Kevin Ottens wrote:
> I've not been a good citizen like you and stuck mostly to IRC so I got a
> question out of curiosity (and because I think it'll impact the decision
> making).
>
> Regarding the lags and the breakages, do they happen only to bridged
On 11/06/2020 18.32, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
I am still using IRC. Last time I tried to register for Matrix it put up
some Google Recaptcha and is where I lost my interest already.
You might have missed it, but identity.kde.org also uses reCAPTCHA :-)
And how else would they keep spammers un
Bernie Innocenti kirjoitti 11.6.2020 klo 14.02:
On 11/06/2020 19.28, Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote:
Bernie Innocenti kirjoitti 11.6.2020 klo 9.38:
Doesn't Riot.im support images well enough for your use-case? It's
free software, and it's becoming fairly mature lately.
The root issue for both Teleg
Hi all,
couple of inputs from my side, with both a KDE and a freenode hat on:
First of all, I do agree that the situation is not great and could be
improved. However, I doubt that "switching to a single product" / "abandon
bridging" would really improve the situation. Projects that went that
The problem with Matrix in KDE is that I'm not even sure someone is actively
working on improving the situation.
I know the KDE sysadmins are not maintaining it and instead, in case of
problem, people should go to #kde-matrix-support:kde.org. So I tried asking
multiple times about why my matrix ac
Christian Loosli kirjoitti 11.6.2020 klo 15.25:
And while IRC is improving (and you are very welcome to participate e.g. in
#ircv3 or #freenode-dev on freenode) two of the main pain points people
mention (lack of an endless scrollback / offline history, uploading media
directly) are unlikely t
Hi Carl,
Am Donnerstag, 11. Juni 2020, 15:15:36 CEST schrieb Carl Schwan:
> The problem with Matrix in KDE is that I'm not even sure someone is actively
> working on improving the situation.
>
> I know the KDE sysadmins are not maintaining it and instead, in case of
> problem, people should go t
On Thursday, 11 June 2020 14:15:36 BST Carl Schwan wrote:
> Same thing with the lag issue. It could be partially resolved if we were
> using the kde.org node instead of the matrix.org for the bridging and it was
> asked multiple times in this channel by someone else. But this is still not
> solved.
Hi,
First off, let me say that I personally have been increasingly satisfied
with Matrix and am of the opinion that once an alternative homeserver
implementation (Dendrite or conduit.rs come to mind, both of them have
top-notch performance) is ready for production, it will be the optimal
solu
Carl Schwan - 11.06.20, 15:15:36 CEST:
> Maybe it is the time to consider other open-source alternatives like
> Mattermost or Rocket Chat... GNOME did it, Blender did it, we even
> have a Rocket Chat client in KDE now!
We do have Rocket.Chat at work and I can say I am quite happy with it.
It is n
Ilmari Lauhakangas - 11.06.20, 15:18:33 CEST:
> Christian Loosli kirjoitti 11.6.2020 klo 15.25:
> > And while IRC is improving (and you are very welcome to participate
> > e.g. in #ircv3 or #freenode-dev on freenode) two of the main pain
> > points people mention (lack of an endless scrollback /
XYQuadrat - 11.06.20, 16:15:04 CEST:
> First off, let me say that I personally have been increasingly
> satisfied with Matrix and am of the opinion that once an alternative
> homeserver implementation (Dendrite or conduit.rs come to mind, both
> of them have top-notch performance) is ready for prod
The incompatibility in capabilities between IRC, Matrix, and Telegram
feels like it makes smooth communication between all three all but
impossible. Maybe I'm wrong about this--hopefully I am! Because I think
that if we're going to stay with Matrix, we need to somehow improve the
UX in directio
On 12/06/2020 14.09, Nate Graham wrote:
If our Matrix instance is sponsored such that requesting support,
maintenance, or development resources costs somebody else time and
money, that seems problematic for the prospect of the issues under
discussion being ironed out. Hopefully there are at lea
Am Freitag, 12. Juni 2020, 07:09:01 CEST schrieb Nate Graham:
> The incompatibility in capabilities between IRC, Matrix, and Telegram
> feels like it makes smooth communication between all three all but
> impossible. Maybe I'm wrong about this--hopefully I am! Because I think
> that if we're going
Hey,
On Friday, June 12, 2020 12:50:25 AM EEST Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Carl Schwan - 11.06.20, 15:15:36 CEST:
> > Maybe it is the time to consider other open-source alternatives like
> > Mattermost or Rocket Chat... GNOME did it, Blender did it, we even
> > have a Rocket Chat client in KDE now
Am Freitag, 12. Juni 2020, 22:00:58 CEST schrieb Andras Mantia:
> Hey,
>
> On Friday, June 12, 2020 12:50:25 AM EEST Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > Carl Schwan - 11.06.20, 15:15:36 CEST:
> > > Maybe it is the time to consider other open-source alternatives like
> > > Mattermost or Rocket Chat... GN
Hi,
On Friday, June 12, 2020 11:03:30 PM EEST Christian Loosli wrote:
> We use it at work with one our partners, and I was pondering to set it up
> for a project I am involved in (no, neither KDE nor freenode) where we do
> not want to use Matrix. Do you happen to know by chance how well it
> brid
Am Freitag, 12. Juni 2020, 22:13:09 CEST schrieb Andras Mantia:
> Hi,
>
> On Friday, June 12, 2020 11:03:30 PM EEST Christian Loosli wrote:
> > We use it at work with one our partners, and I was pondering to set it up
> > for a project I am involved in (no, neither KDE nor freenode) where we do
>
On Wednesday, 10 June 2020 16:16:55 PDT Nate Graham wrote:
> ...
Has anyone considered Zulip https://zulipchat.com/ ?
Rust community uses it a lot, and it has THE BEST threading support ever.
--
Ihor Antonov
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I've seen it used in a few circles. However if I had to suggest something,
definitely Mattermost. I've used it when I worked with the EFF and for a
minute, I thought it was something like Slack. It is but on steroids. It is
written in Go and React but the likes of Uber also use it.
On June 14,
On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 3:40 PM Ihor Antonov wrote:
> On Wednesday, 10 June 2020 16:16:55 PDT Nate Graham wrote:
> > ...
>
> Has anyone considered Zulip https://zulipchat.com/ ?
>
> Rust community uses it a lot, and it has THE BEST threading support ever.
>
> --
> Ihor Antonov
It is very nice,
Am Mo., 15. Juni 2020 um 02:03 Uhr schrieb Valorie Zimmerman
:
>
> It is very nice, and the team are great people. I went to one of their
> sessions a few years back at a GSoC Mentor Summit. Thinking about using it
> for the KDE community, I asked them about bridging to IRC. They said that
> the
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