Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New lockscreen

2013-01-11 Thread Martin Sandsmark
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 02:14:37PM +0100, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > We are not talking about the same things. We have three parts here: > * locking of screen (no keyboard, no mouse) > * not exposing screen content > * unlock dialog > > to me the lock screen is "locking the screen plus not exposing t

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New lockscreen

2013-01-11 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Friday 11 January 2013 13:49:00 Martin Sandsmark wrote: > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 01:23:04PM +0100, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 11:37:43AM +0100, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > > > > Which is why the lock screen has usually been activated separately > > > > > from > > > > > th

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New lockscreen

2013-01-11 Thread Martin Sandsmark
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 01:23:04PM +0100, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 11:37:43AM +0100, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > > > Which is why the lock screen has usually been activated separately from > > > > the > > > > screensaver. > > And no, the lock screen was not running in the scr

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New lockscreen

2013-01-11 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Friday 11 January 2013 12:52:04 Martin Sandsmark wrote: > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 11:37:43AM +0100, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > > Which is why the lock screen has usually been activated separately from > > > the > > > screensaver. > > > > no, it wasn't. The lock screen had been implemented inside

Re: Re: Re: Re: New lockscreen

2013-01-11 Thread Martin Sandsmark
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 11:37:43AM +0100, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > Which is why the lock screen has usually been activated separately from the > > screensaver. > no, it wasn't. The lock screen had been implemented inside the screen savers. > Yes blank screen was just another kind of screensavers.

Re: Re: Re: Re: New lockscreen

2013-01-11 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Friday 11 January 2013 11:40:07 Yuri Chornoivan wrote: > Fri, 11 Jan 2013 11:28:22 +0200 було написано Martin Gräßlin > > : > > But the discussion again shows that just removing it completely and tell > > people to use XSS if they want screen savers would have been the right > > choice. > > Hi,

Re: Re: Re: Re: New lockscreen

2013-01-11 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Friday 11 January 2013 10:47:40 Martin Sandsmark wrote: > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 10:28:22AM +0100, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > and what has protecting the screen against burn-ins to do with security? > > Nothing, right. > > Which is why the lock screen has usually been activated separately from t