Re: Allow users to donate money towards bugs

2011-09-29 Thread Sven Burmeister
Am Sonntag, 25. September 2011, 10:56:21 schrieb Lydia Pintscher: > I'd like to recommend watching Stormy Peter's excellent talk titled > "Would you do it again for free". It has some very enlightening points > about this topic. To quote from her blog: http://stormyscorner.com/2008/11/does-money-

Re: Allow users to donate money towards bugs

2011-09-29 Thread Robert Klotzner
Well the basic idea is to be able to make a living by writing free software. But how can it be done, if you give it away for free? Well it does not make any sense to sell copies, because copies are free (the proprietary way), but it does make sense to pay for the development of free software. The q

Re: Allow users to donate money towards bugs

2011-09-29 Thread Anne Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/27/2011 04:12 PM, Felix Rohrbach wrote: > If the money donated to a bug is not to motivate the developers, > but a way for users to show that they care about a bug, then why > don't donate the money to the KDE eV? As far as I know that isn't an

Re: Allow users to donate money towards bugs

2011-09-28 Thread Andras Mantia
On Tuesday, September 27, 2011 17:12:10 Felix Rohrbach wrote: > This discussion is mostly about no money at all vs. money to > developers, and I guess it will end with no result, as there are many > people strictly against money to developers. But most arguments > against it just apply to the "mon

Re: Allow users to donate money towards bugs

2011-09-27 Thread Giorgos Tsiapaliwkas
This is my personal opinion. Motivation comes from the "open" rewards of the community.A mail,a ping in irc,etc.. The fact that i will hang with some KDE people motivates me. Trolling,whining doesn't motivate me.Money doesn't motivate me. If someone wants to help the developers economically then

Re: Allow users to donate money towards bugs

2011-09-27 Thread Felix Rohrbach
Am Dienstag, 27. September 2011, 10:50:09 schrieb Anne Wilson: > On 09/25/2011 03:36 PM, Cornelius Schumacher wrote: > > They don't become evil, but money as incentive will negatively > > affect their motivation. There are scientific studies, which show, > > that this kind of extrinsic motivation a

Re: Re: Allow users to donate money towards bugs

2011-09-27 Thread Moritz Hobe
Am Dienstag, 27. September 2011, 10:50:09 schrieb Anne Wilson: > Seriously, much research shows that once you have enough money to eat > and pay the bills, it isn't itself much of a motivator. I'd say that > the real motivator is showing how important the feature is to the > requester. Maybe a co

Re: Allow users to donate money towards bugs

2011-09-27 Thread Anne Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/25/2011 03:36 PM, Cornelius Schumacher wrote: > They don't become evil, but money as incentive will negatively > affect their motivation. There are scientific studies, which show, > that this kind of extrinsic motivation actually leads to worse >

Re: Allow users to donate money towards bugs

2011-09-25 Thread Cornelius Schumacher
On Thursday 22 September 2011 Sven Burmeister wrote: > > What did he try? I think there things are mixed-up here. There is "fixing a > bug" which is most of the time different from "add a feature". Not all work is the same, but I don't think the difference is between fixing bugs and adding featu

Re: Allow users to donate money towards bugs

2011-09-25 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 23:49, Sven Burmeister wrote: >> Money introduces a dangerous dynamics into this. It values extrinsic rewards >> over intrinsic rewards, opens the can of worms of fair distribution of >> money, and it requires a new level of administration, which is hard to get >> right. >

Re: Allow users to donate money towards bugs

2011-09-25 Thread Sven Burmeister
Am Donnerstag, 22. September 2011, 22:13:12 schrieb Cornelius Schumacher: > On Thursday 22 September 2011 10:29:16 John Tapsell wrote: > > I think it would really help with bug reports if we let people > > > > donate money towards getting bugs fixed. If there are lots of users > > annoyed by a

Re: Allow users to donate money towards bugs

2011-09-22 Thread Cornelius Schumacher
On Thursday 22 September 2011 10:29:16 John Tapsell wrote: > > I think it would really help with bug reports if we let people > donate money towards getting bugs fixed. If there are lots of users > annoyed by a bug, and there's no longer a maintainer for that code, > then it makes a lot of sens

Re: Allow users to donate money towards bugs

2011-09-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.09.2011 10:29, schrieb John Tapsell: > I think it would really help with bug reports if we let people > donate money towards getting bugs fixed. If there are lots of users > annoyed by a bug, and there's no longer a maintainer for that code, > then it makes a lot of sense to let those users

Allow users to donate money towards bugs

2011-09-22 Thread John Tapsell
Hi all, I think it would really help with bug reports if we let people donate money towards getting bugs fixed. If there are lots of users annoyed by a bug, and there's no longer a maintainer for that code, then it makes a lot of sense to let those users contribute money towards the bug fix unt